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Re: Novax

2011-09-21T00:51:42+02:00

Heh. Yes, the 50-mile head-shot. Truly epic.

Statistics: Posted by FunkOff — 21 Sep 2011, 00:51

Re: Novax

2011-09-20T18:36:54+02:00

FunkOff wrote:
actually, AZ, the mavor was the ORIGINAL game ender.

Only in SCom1 when it could snipe an ACU from across the map
I said, "never much of a game ender in FA"

Statistics: Posted by AdmiralZeech — 20 Sep 2011, 18:36

Re: Novax

2011-09-20T17:33:19+02:00

actually, AZ, the mavor was the ORIGINAL game ender.

Statistics: Posted by FunkOff — 20 Sep 2011, 17:33

Re: Novax

2011-09-20T17:25:05+02:00

I love satellite beams

What if we made the Novax a game ender, with a game-ender-like cost? Buff the beam, make it always on, give it the thick beam effect from the CZAR, give it AOE

Then we make the Mavor much cheaper and weaker and give it a different role. It was never much of a game ender anyways in FA.

Statistics: Posted by AdmiralZeech — 20 Sep 2011, 17:25

Re: Novax

2011-09-20T15:10:54+02:00

Read that :
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2

And particulary the last line. I won't say it twice.

Statistics: Posted by Ze_PilOt — 20 Sep 2011, 15:10

Re: Novax

2011-09-20T15:08:58+02:00

noobymcnoobcake wrote:
Novax is deadly on maps like setons where it takes out all the mexes.

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As it is now the Novax on most game is just for fun, I hardly see it as a viable unit to actually do damage. It's completely useless, the damage you can do considering its cost are ridiculous. I guess the situation can be different on a long thermo x2 game, but on that I would shut it

Statistics: Posted by -_V_- — 20 Sep 2011, 15:08

Re: Novax

2011-09-20T00:21:55+02:00

Gowerly wrote:
Things about the novax:
1 is terrible
3 will win you a game..

This sounds exactly like T3 artillery. Why do we need the Novax to have a role like this? It is redundant.

How about a completely different role for it? Totally redo the entire unit, new cost, build time, etc...
Just some ideas to get you thinking.

Mobile Intel/Vision
Satellite reclaims wreckage
Mobile SMD
Mobile TMD
Satellite provides large area radar jamming
Satellite provides teleport jamming
Satellite weapon is EMP blast
Satellite weapon is Shield Absolver
Satellite weapon is uber anti-air weapon of some kind.
Satellite teleports land units from base station to land below satellite.

Some stupid ideas obviously, but I don't think we have to be limited to just making it a T2.5 artillery.

P.S. It is hard to think of new weapons for UEF as they are already so strong in most areas. The vision idea stands out as a small weakness for UEF as Aeon have the Eye of Rhianne and Cybran have the Soothsayer.

Statistics: Posted by Treble — 20 Sep 2011, 00:21

Re: Novax

2011-09-19T19:29:43+02:00

Novax is deadly on maps like setons where it takes out all the mexes. I think make it more dps but shootable by anti nuke and make the satalite cost like 5k mass and 2 mins UNNASISTABLE buildtime. This way it cost more than anti nuke. Also give it radar and better vision range. This way it would not be a threat to bases but be a big threat to mexes. It would still be counteable by SMD and make it not auto target it. Its funny when they allow restorers without 3603 but not novax/para/arty. If you let them get para you DESERVE to lose. One game on betrayal it was sort of stalemate so i got novax and sniped all his mexes. He says I was a noob using an op weapon ect ect and - repped me on PT. a weapon that has the same damage/sec as aeon T1 arty but cost 1000 times as much even if it is indestrutable can not be op. 2 shields stop it dead. if they did proper scouting they would see you bulding one and get the apropriate counter. 2 T2 shields + mobile one for each mex will do the trick. covering all your mex like thaqt cost WAY less than 37k mass.

so it will be a good weapon but with counters.

Statistics: Posted by noobymcnoobcake — 19 Sep 2011, 19:29

Re: Novax

2011-09-19T14:57:23+02:00

I'd be for buffing it. The humorous thing is that the Novax, even in it's currently gimped state, is one of the most-disallowed units in thermo/setons/etc, as it kind of short-circuits the whole "make simcity base, endlessly throws exps at the enemy" gameplay when you get a few of them up.

Statistics: Posted by uberge3k — 19 Sep 2011, 14:57

Re: Novax

2011-09-18T18:40:28+02:00

They are 37k mass now, so I'd probably just cut that to an even 30 for starters. Nuke silo + nuke = 27k mass, so we don't want the novax to be appreciably cheaper than that as not to make it imba

Statistics: Posted by FunkOff — 18 Sep 2011, 18:40

Re: Novax

2011-09-18T18:07:40+02:00

The Novax satellite is invulnerable to all intents and purposes. You can't shoot it down. The only way it dies is if the building controlling it dies.

Things about the novax:
1 is terrible
3 will win you a game.
They get significantly better the more of them you have, as suddenly you can't shield your base enough any more.

Having them with constant fire will cause the same problem, you just won't be able to stop them.

Their benefit is being a unit that can damage without fear of being lost (unless you lose your base) or can be used to drop on SMD silos.
This currently does not justify the cost.
If anything, reduce the cost slightly, but not too much. I think if people built them and used them to snipe outlying mass extractors they would see more use as they currently are.

Statistics: Posted by Gowerly — 18 Sep 2011, 18:07

Re: Novax

2011-09-18T11:10:55+02:00

Make it cost less and allow SMDs to shoot it down.
Base station blows up when satellite is shot down.
When Ctrl-Ked, the satellite will drop an an unpredictable angle, so you cant really use it to snipe things.
Reduce the laser range (or increase vision) so that it can see what it is shooting.

Also, my personal wish: Change the laser properties so that it is always firing, and doesnt reload. If needed, adjust damage so DPS remains constant.

Statistics: Posted by AdmiralZeech — 18 Sep 2011, 11:10

Re: Novax

2011-09-18T01:56:46+02:00

I don't think it respawns. If it did, people would just suicide it for its death weapon (3000) damage and use that to kill smds lol.

Statistics: Posted by FunkOff — 18 Sep 2011, 01:56

Re: Novax

2011-09-18T00:32:56+02:00

do you have to pay for each satellite? i recall it to respawn for free, but that may be outdated.

Statistics: Posted by Kryo — 18 Sep 2011, 00:32

Re: Novax

2011-09-17T23:59:52+02:00

but it would be cheaper to unload the anti-nuke with nukes....

Statistics: Posted by FunkOff — 17 Sep 2011, 23:59