Forged Alliance Forever

Re: Faction Diversity

2011-09-17T11:35:26+02:00

it's not linked to this topic, but it would be a good idea to get different icons to separate pgen and energy storage, and separate mex and mass storage.
So it would be easier to focus what we want

Statistics: Posted by Lu_Xun_17 — 17 Sep 2011, 11:35

Re: Faction Diversity

2011-09-17T11:01:00+02:00

When I was making the units DB, I faced a problem of assigning strategic icons to units.
And because I didn't want to make it for over 300 units by myself, I had to do look for the ways how it was done on the original site.

And here I've found something that, well not shocked, but did surprise me big time:

(the same for each faction)

there are some nice ideas (like fighter/missile) haven't been implemented yet, I want to belive

Statistics: Posted by Raging_Squirrel — 17 Sep 2011, 11:01

Re: Faction Diversity

2011-09-17T00:07:40+02:00

What was the title of the thread again ?

They don't have T2 bot, it's BS !

Statistics: Posted by Ze_PilOt — 17 Sep 2011, 00:07

Re: Faction Diversity

2011-09-17T00:05:15+02:00

Cybran should have it. Sera has sniper bots, UEF has ravager creeping and Fatboy.

Statistics: Posted by Treble — 17 Sep 2011, 00:05

Re: Faction Diversity

2011-09-16T23:41:00+02:00

I agree with isen: Only aeon has anti-shield unit. No other faction has a unit that is particularly effective vs shields. It's kinda BS.

Statistics: Posted by FunkOff — 16 Sep 2011, 23:41

Re: Faction Diversity

2011-09-16T23:37:08+02:00

are you seriously speaking about the aeon disruptors?, i think they are usefull against mobile shields, and btw.... the faction who has the better shields has the disruptor...

Statistics: Posted by Isen — 16 Sep 2011, 23:37

Re: Faction Diversity

2011-09-16T17:56:05+02:00

if you go through the trouble, make 2 categories: shields and bubbles (anything with radius >= mobile shields).
the disrupter has 0 damage area and fires like an artillery - should focus on static shields and big targets primary (call em bubbles).

oh, and i was wrong, absolver has 60 range, t3pd 70, just an insult for a fragile long range support t3 weapon, it needs atleast to be 70, better 75. and the dps in the unitdb seems messed up (t3pd has 8750 dps), probably not factoring in reload time.

Statistics: Posted by Unconsumeable — 16 Sep 2011, 17:56

Re: Faction Diversity

2011-09-16T17:06:05+02:00

Hmmmm... It's so tempting to implement directly without further testing

Statistics: Posted by Ze_PilOt — 16 Sep 2011, 17:06

Re: Faction Diversity

2011-09-16T17:05:05+02:00

Yes, it's possible. All I would have to so is make a special category and put all units with shields in that category and tell the disruptor to prioritize those units first. It's a tedious, but fundamentally simple change.

Statistics: Posted by FunkOff — 16 Sep 2011, 17:05

Re: Faction Diversity

2011-09-16T16:56:00+02:00

I'm agree that a little extra range on the disruptor would be nice. Just enough to be able to shoot a shield without being able to be shoot down by a T2 PD under that shield. And an higher shoot priority on shield units/building, if it's possible... FunkOff ?

But when you take your courage and do the extra micro, they are EXTREMELY deathly against a turtler.

Statistics: Posted by Ze_PilOt — 16 Sep 2011, 16:56

Re: Faction Diversity

2011-09-16T16:47:41+02:00

Ze_PilOt wrote:
Errr aeon got one and it's really usefull and greatly underestimated.

thats because its range is not big enough to be used with t3 arty, you need to groundfire to use it effectively because of that, and you need visual on the shields so you can tell which are down and which are up. they are an insane hassle to use correctly, they cant target usefully on their own, and they typically are in the front row of your "siege army" because of the low range. an uef t3 pd has the same range, if its covered by a few shields then you dont have good chances killing those from a distance.
its great the few times you manage to put them to good use, but mostly they just fire on the wrong stuff everytime you dont babysit them

Statistics: Posted by Unconsumeable — 16 Sep 2011, 16:47

Re: Faction Diversity

2011-09-15T20:27:42+02:00

Not at T2

Statistics: Posted by TAG_ROCK — 15 Sep 2011, 20:27

Re: Faction Diversity

2011-09-15T19:25:18+02:00

Errr aeon got one and it's really usefull and greatly underestimated.

Statistics: Posted by Ze_PilOt — 15 Sep 2011, 19:25

Re: Faction Diversity

2011-09-15T19:00:25+02:00

Love the shield buster idea btw. I think a very specific counter to shields would be great for gameplay.

Statistics: Posted by CrazedChariot — 15 Sep 2011, 19:00

Re: Faction Diversity

2011-09-15T18:56:16+02:00

If I am not mistaken, you are looking to add an entire new faction, which I love btw.

I'd prefer to focus on new units / factions / substantial content and gameplay additions, than constantly arguing over little balance issues. The reality is, as soon as you balance one thing, it creates issues someplace else. You are not going to achieve perfect balance, unless all the factions are identical.

I would argue to spend your time on adding content instead.

Statistics: Posted by CrazedChariot — 15 Sep 2011, 18:56