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Re: #newbie chat channel

2017-12-24T18:44:54+02:00

Morax wrote:
Zock wrote:we had this once, and it didn't really work, but maybe it's worth trying it again.

It would probably work better if you indicate a new message in a channel you're not in similar to other chat clients.

Not only that, but BAW was one of the bet "we will train you" corps I have ever seen in Supreme Commander. OxideIon, Turinturambar, Nexus, and Zock will always have my respect for the time they gave others and myself to help try and get people into top shape. For many, you really do need to train and give coaching.

I made a suggestion to Medicraze that he makes a nice "this is FAF: here is how you get trained, and who to talk to." Perhaps it best to consider making this video before introducing the concept and making it mainstream.

It is in the works. I've just had 1 day off work in 2 weeks. so I'm likely to be a little afk short term. I'm avg. 72 hours a week at work. but i get a 3 day weekend right now. so maybe i'll have time to run through this. just gonna run this hangover off real quick first though.

Statistics: Posted by Medicraze — 24 Dec 2017, 18:44

Re: #newbie chat channel

2017-12-21T00:21:03+02:00

JaggedAppliance wrote:
I hope to set up regular tourneys for newbies with the help of Tokyto and we are looking for people to help.

i can help out with a few tourney prize pools if Tokyto just pm me when these will be And i can work things out, but Also baring in mine i do host some of the bigger tourney for higher rated players with bigger prize pools

Statistics: Posted by Rowey — 21 Dec 2017, 00:21

Re: #newbie chat channel

2017-12-21T00:01:07+02:00

https://github.com/FAForever/client/blo ... et.py#L264
less than 51 games while having the option to autojoin enabled

Statistics: Posted by PhilipJFry — 21 Dec 2017, 00:01

Re: #newbie chat channel

2017-12-20T23:43:25+02:00

so what is required to be auto joined in to this new channel then as im a 1k player but laddaer is verry low is that why i was auto joined ?

Statistics: Posted by Rowey — 20 Dec 2017, 23:43

Re: #newbie chat channel

2017-12-19T06:52:11+02:00

The channel is in use now, we have autojoin working with the latest client update so join up, help some newbies out with their questions.

Statistics: Posted by JaggedAppliance — 19 Dec 2017, 06:52

Re: #newbie chat channel

2017-12-10T11:35:03+02:00

This would be a great idea

Statistics: Posted by partymarty81 — 10 Dec 2017, 11:35

Re: #newbie chat channel

2017-12-10T01:08:59+02:00

So for the next client update there will be a feature about it :
if you have less than 50 games you autojoin the #newbie channel, after you have more than 50 games, then you won't join auto it. However, there is another feature added which makes you able to autojoin any channel you want (so you can add #poker, #newbie even if you have more than 50 games)

From @Exotic_Retard on github :
"have the newbie channel part of the generic autojoin thing and not by rating, just make it on by default. that way all new players will join it until they turn it off. no need to force anyone to do anything, and they can leave when they feel theyre ready. some people want training even after 100 games for example."

My answer :
I don't know tbh . For info dev side that's just 2 lines to remove, which is nothing.

I feel like it would just become another aeolus if everyone joins it by default. And they can still add the autojoin to #newbie even if they have more than 50 games... so I'm not sure. What do other people think ? Should everyone autojoin by default #newbie until they disable it ?

Statistics: Posted by surtsan — 10 Dec 2017, 01:08

Re: #newbie chat channel

2017-12-07T19:48:54+02:00

Hey, I'd like to help you out on this. PM me if you have anything mind. I'd love to make a video for this endeavor.

Statistics: Posted by Medicraze — 07 Dec 2017, 19:48

Re: #newbie chat channel

2017-12-06T04:15:50+02:00

Reference the wiki, a lot of the articles for the "Learning Supcom" page are outdated, we do need some people to help write them, i made an old UEF one and dog and i recently wrote a Seraphim one, it's a great starting point for people starting out but needs to be developed!

Statistics: Posted by biass — 06 Dec 2017, 04:15

Re: #newbie chat channel

2017-12-06T03:17:28+02:00

The idea is pretty interesting, and could also have its complications. On one hand I would see the kind of access of information and support available for new players to obtain and interact with being quite beneficial, while on another I worry that this might isolate and "sever" a newbie's place in the community, not so much as a status matter but also of one that they may not feel in place of being on aeolus where "regulars" tend to congregate. That's more a less a fanciful way to putting it, but I can see how this could change things in the community.

Overall I am down for the idea as well, and would like to extend a hand as well into training/moderating the chat however possible. I've done training for dozens of new people and have helped some average players along for a long time. I do have the experience of moderating the FAF discord as well, so while I don't figure you'll need much help for that, I feel it worth putting forth in aiding the cause. I'll help out in any way that I'm able.

Best of luck to the effort, and I look forward to seeing if we can make this work out in the long run

Statistics: Posted by Ze Dogfather — 06 Dec 2017, 03:17

Re: #newbie chat channel

2017-12-06T02:57:48+02:00

Zock wrote:
we had this once, and it didn't really work, but maybe it's worth trying it again.

It would probably work better if you indicate a new message in a channel you're not in similar to other chat clients.

Not only that, but BAW was one of the bet "we will train you" corps I have ever seen in Supreme Commander. OxideIon, Turinturambar, Nexus, and Zock will always have my respect for the time they gave others and myself to help try and get people into top shape. For many, you really do need to train and give coaching.

I made a suggestion to Medicraze that he makes a nice "this is FAF: here is how you get trained, and who to talk to." Perhaps it best to consider making this video before introducing the concept and making it mainstream.

Statistics: Posted by Morax — 06 Dec 2017, 02:57

Re: #newbie chat channel

2017-12-06T01:42:04+02:00

we had this once, and it didn't really work, but maybe it's worth trying it again.

It would probably work better if you indicate a new message in a channel you're not in similar to other chat clients.

Statistics: Posted by Zock — 06 Dec 2017, 01:42

Re: #newbie chat channel

2017-12-06T14:38:52+02:00

I've looked into the game lobby code, and seems like if deviation < 100, your rating is white. So maybe it would be the limit ? (considered newbie if deviation of ladder or global > 100)

For their questions, not important if they ask in aeolus instead of newbie channel (have fun telling every day that they should ask a question in this channel instead of aeolus..)

EDIT : switched to number of games < 51 to be considered newbie.

Statistics: Posted by surtsan — 06 Dec 2017, 01:15

Re: #newbie chat channel

2017-12-06T00:16:08+02:00

Yeah seems like a lot of people are already looking into it which is great.

Also just a personal belief which I'm curious if other people feel the same on, I think it should perhaps be noted that this isn't necessarily meant to become a designated spot for things.
I.e. if someone asks a question in aeolus there is no reason you can't answer it there rather than some overly complicated process of explaining why they should move to this channel and THEN answer their question.

Statistics: Posted by moonbearonmeth — 06 Dec 2017, 00:16

Re: #newbie chat channel

2017-12-06T00:06:26+02:00

there is a PR with the required changes up already (since june). Better convince the maintainers to review it and finalize it
https://github.com/FAForever/client/pull/357

Statistics: Posted by CookieNoob — 06 Dec 2017, 00:06