Forged Alliance Forever

Re: Newbie questions/advice

2018-02-17T18:43:16+02:00

Ahhh ok that is a shame, are there any plans to make in compatible? And lets say I would want to play LOUD AI + faf beta? is there a way to make that work?

Edit : or I should rather ask : is there a way to play Loud AI with all the in game functionalities of FAF?

Statistics: Posted by Toilenator — 17 Feb 2018, 18:43

Re: Newbie questions/advice

2018-02-17T18:28:02+02:00

Unfortunately no, the LOUD project is not compatible with the FAF lobby, but rather installs in parallel so that players can utilize both. It supports all the standard connection options of the original game for multiplayer, direct connection and LAN. It's also supported by VPN gaming solutions like Evolve and Tuungle, and works very well with products like LogmeIn Hamachi.

Statistics: Posted by Sprouto — 17 Feb 2018, 18:28

Re: Newbie questions/advice

2018-02-17T16:58:28+02:00

thanks for all the tips, Playing against Compstomps and against each other is usually what we do, we play mostly for fun. We might eventually dip our toes in the real pvp side of FAF.
However we are not really fans of meta tactics (nothing wrong with it just not our thing), and like I mentioned earlier we all have some bad experiences with toxicity with PVP. So before we cross that threshold, playing against AI is fine, we usually work up towards the hardest setting, Eventually we will get bored with the AI, its going to take a while before that happens though since I see quite a a lot of options for the AI .

As long the AI provides a decent challenge and we have fun its fine , not really rushers anyway and we usually drag games out.

Edit : I also seem to have phrased it wrong when saying "hone our skills", Let me correct that : "to familiarize ourselves better with the game."

Sprouto wrote:
If battling an AI (and a better one at that) is your thing - with your friends - then you might want to examine the LOUD AI Project.

http://www.moddb.com/mods/loud-ai-supre ... d-alliance

It's especially suited for the kind of game you sound interested in...

that is awesome thanks for the tip man , is it fully compatible with FAF? and I presume maps need AI markers for it to function?

Statistics: Posted by Toilenator — 17 Feb 2018, 16:58

Re: Newbie questions/advice

2018-02-17T10:37:24+02:00

playing against AI too long leads to too many pds build

Statistics: Posted by MayorDamage — 17 Feb 2018, 10:37

Re: Newbie questions/advice

2018-02-17T09:49:58+02:00

Erich von Manstein wrote:
AI is good for a start, to learn the basic game mechanics. You want to advance to human opponents as soon as you can beat the supreme AI in a 1v1 match or when you get bored of AI play, whichever comes first. Reason being that the highest AI equates to about 500-600 player and you cannot improve by playing against the someone of constant skill.

no
you can't put the ai on a scale in terms of skill that equates to anything a human player can do

being able to beat any ai doesn't tell you anything about playing against other people

don't expect to beat anyone in 1v1 because you consistently beat any ai opponent

Statistics: Posted by PhilipJFry — 17 Feb 2018, 09:49

Re: Newbie questions/advice

2018-02-17T08:37:26+02:00

AI is good for a start, to learn the basic game mechanics. You want to advance to human opponents as soon as you can beat the supreme AI in a 1v1 match or when you get bored of AI play, whichever comes first. Reason being that the highest AI equates to about 500-600 player and you cannot improve by playing against the someone of constant skill.

Statistics: Posted by Lieutenant Lich — 17 Feb 2018, 08:37

Re: Newbie questions/advice

2018-02-17T03:58:05+02:00

Toilenator wrote:
For now Ill be playing with friends against AI to hone our skills. Would be nice to find some other like minded people though.

At the other hand would be nice to find some other like minded players.

If battling an AI (and a better one at that) is your thing - with your friends - then you might want to examine the LOUD AI Project.

http://www.moddb.com/mods/loud-ai-supre ... d-alliance

It's especially suited for the kind of game you sound interested in...

Statistics: Posted by Sprouto — 17 Feb 2018, 03:58

Re: Newbie questions/advice

2018-02-17T03:27:24+02:00

Toilenator wrote:
For now Ill be playing with friends against AI to hone our skills

Good luck with that.

Statistics: Posted by moonbearonmeth — 17 Feb 2018, 03:27

Re: Newbie questions/advice

2018-02-16T19:04:49+02:00

yeah, pretty much what farms said.
95 replays / 5 days = ~20 replays/day, but i guess depends on what you count as replays, if you specify down to only 2k+ then its way fewer ofc. I count the number of replays as the number of replays shown in the vault.
58 are single player, which is a usual proportion for FAF, and things like EQ tourneys dont really skew this

This puts EQ somewhere in the middle in terms of featured mod popularity; im not at my PC atm so i cant get numbers but they range somewhere from 1-2 replays/day to 100+ /day for Xtreme wars and the like.

But this bit i agree with the most! just do whatever!

Farmsletje wrote:
Just pick what you guys find the most fun

Statistics: Posted by Exotic_Retard — 16 Feb 2018, 19:04

Re: Newbie questions/advice

2018-02-16T18:48:09+02:00

Exotic_Retard wrote:
EQ gets around 20-40 replays per day

Not really. In the last 5 days there were 95 total EQ games. 58 of those only had 1 player in them, which means 7,4 EQ multiplayer/coop games/day.

Although this doesn't really matter since you're mostly playing with friends. Just pick what you guys find the most fun

Statistics: Posted by Farmsletje — 16 Feb 2018, 18:48

Re: Newbie questions/advice

2018-02-16T18:09:42+02:00

EQ sits in the middle as far as featured mod popularity goes - the most played ones are ones that add lots of units like xtreme wars and nomads, while the least popular ones are things like king of the hill, claustrophobia and lab wars. EQ gets around 20-40 replays per day, depending on the position of the stars and what not. Its playerbase is pretty similar to that of FAF on average - i.e. mostly lower rated games, and a bunch vs ai.

It gets a few tourneys per year but i think that those arent enough to really skew numbers in either direction.
From experience, if you are good at hosting you can fill anything, but it really does depend on what you want to do - if its some modded game, or obscure map it may make it harder or easier to fill up.

Statistics: Posted by Exotic_Retard — 16 Feb 2018, 18:09

Re: Newbie questions/advice

2018-02-16T16:48:40+02:00

I was under the impression that EQ was quite populated. For now Ill be playing with friends against AI to hone our skills, will be mostly playing against each other, since we all have bad experiences in online pvp with RTS games. Would be nice to find some other like minded people though.

At the other hand would be nice to find some other like minded players.

Statistics: Posted by Toilenator — 16 Feb 2018, 16:48

Re: Newbie questions/advice

2018-02-16T10:20:40+02:00

Erich von Manstein wrote:
As suggested, play all four, then choose

Why? When i started i chose uef just because i though they looked the best (aesthetically). Nothing wrong with that.

Toilenator wrote:
so it is only a matter of time until I either am content with the current balance of FAF or switch to EQ

Just so you know, currently there isnt a playerbase dedicated to eq and it barely gets played compared to the normal balance, so i suggest not doing that unless you get a group of people together that are of the same mindset AND very active, otherwise youll permanently be stuck in lobbysim hell.

Statistics: Posted by Farmsletje — 16 Feb 2018, 10:20

Re: Newbie questions/advice

2018-02-16T01:19:39+02:00

All factions can be played defensively but regardless of what faction you play, you cannot win the game by staying on the defensive. What I am getting at is more of an axiomatic rule of war than a balance question but still worth saying.

Statwise and experiencewise, Cybran are pretty bad on defense. Their t2 PD is more for shredding t1/t2 units than heavy t3s and t4s. Aeon are also pretty bad because their PDs are dodgeable with some micro. Seraphim PDs never miss and they do decent damage, coupled with their strong shields they are as good as UEF on defense in T2. UEF is considered the master of defense or turtling but their offensive capabilities are to be reckoned with, especially in t2 and t3.

As suggested, play all four, then choose.

Statistics: Posted by Lieutenant Lich — 16 Feb 2018, 01:19

Re: Newbie questions/advice

2018-02-15T21:05:22+02:00

ahhh thanks for the pitch, indeed from my experience in stalking gaming forums, balance issues are always a hot topic. I always see balancing as a pot of soup, some people prefer different ingredients, spices and herbs then others ^^.

Thanks for all the info and pitch. I think for now Ill keep playing FAF, to familiarize myself more in the game, I have read the EQ changelog, so it is only a matter of time until I either am content with the current balance of FAF or switch to EQ (same thing happened with Company of Heroes once I switched to Blitzkireg mod).

I do have to say though the thing that attracts me most to EQ are the Sub changes :O

PS.
I also want to thank you all for the warm welcome, cheers!

Statistics: Posted by Toilenator — 15 Feb 2018, 21:05