Forged Alliance Forever

Re: No score in ranked game

2013-03-25T19:11:32+02:00

Petricpwnz wrote:
Really great update, now bomber 1st isn't a fail, also i hope the amount of snipes would be decreased now.

Yeah because eco wars ending in overproducing your opponent are great. The game shouldn't be about assassinating your opponent it should be who can outproduce the other better.

Statistics: Posted by ZaphodX — 25 Mar 2013, 19:11

Re: No score in ranked game

2013-03-25T17:27:53+02:00

Really great update, now bomber 1st isn't a fail, also i hope the amount of snipes would be decreased now.

Statistics: Posted by Petricpwnz — 25 Mar 2013, 17:27

Re: No score in ranked game

2013-03-25T15:39:05+02:00

my new buildorder (scout first)

air fac, scout, engy, scout, engy, scout, engy, scout, engy, scout engy, scout, engy ...

+1 for scouts with 1 dps do it!!!! the first 2 minutes could be an intel war

Statistics: Posted by discoverer2k4 — 25 Mar 2013, 15:39

Re: No score in ranked game

2013-03-25T14:57:05+02:00

I find it better this way, as now you can't look at the score and think 'oh f**k I'm behind in score a lot' or maybe 'I'm in the lead, so I should win' so it removes a lot of unnecessary pressure on the player.

I think the opposite is happening...because you don't know how your opponent is doing you are constantly under pressure and you have to bring your a-game in any case.
However leading in points always calmed me down

I tend to say, that i'm gonna miss the score a lot....but i can also follow the argument, that it provides free intel. The bright side may be that there will be more crazy opening strategies

Greetz Knorpsel

Statistics: Posted by Hascins — 25 Mar 2013, 14:57

Re: Removal of Score in 1v1

2013-03-25T13:31:47+02:00

I find it better this way, as now you can't look at the score and think 'oh f**k I'm behind in score a lot' or maybe 'I'm in the lead, so I should win' so it removes a lot of unnecessary pressure on the player.

Statistics: Posted by da_monstr — 25 Mar 2013, 13:31

Re: No score in ranked game

2013-03-25T13:29:12+02:00

Zaphods'x post explains pretty well why it was better to cut off the score.... scouting is emphatized too

Statistics: Posted by Bliss — 25 Mar 2013, 13:29

Re: Removal of Score in 1v1

2013-03-25T13:25:42+02:00

It is good that it's disabled in ladder imho

Statistics: Posted by Bliss — 25 Mar 2013, 13:25

Removal of Score in 1v1

2013-03-25T13:16:50+02:00

Just a quick note RE dropping of the score from ranked 1v1 games.

I feel this is a decision relevant to higher end games, indeed Ze_Pilot and others seemed to think it was a great idea, and one they had wanted for ages. I personally remember going way back (even Supcom1 beta?) that this was despised by higher order players as it gave away free intel. I felt GPG left it in for this reason (and no not because they are just 'dumb').

My point is that I feel it gives important intel to what is a fairly epic and unmanageable game in comparison to micro-heavy games like Starcraft. At the lower levels I think it should stay - Ze_Pilot has said he is able to do this.

Just wondering what people think.

Statistics: Posted by Sleeper Service — 25 Mar 2013, 13:16

Re: No score in ranked game

2013-03-25T12:54:40+02:00

ZaphodX wrote:
I really don't think it was necessary and really don't like this change I used the score a lot to tell what my opponent is doing and to get information about his BO.

That's exactly why it was removed.

ZaphodX wrote:
Scouting is not a replacement for the info.

It is.

ZaphodX wrote:
Since when has it been a problem?

Since vanilla beta I would say.

Statistics: Posted by Ze_PilOt — 25 Mar 2013, 12:54

Re: No score in ranked game

2013-03-25T12:45:17+02:00

I really don't think it was necessary and really don't like this change I used the score a lot to tell what my opponent is doing and to get information about his BO. Scouting is not a replacement for the info. It allowed you to adjust your game to be more aggressive/defensive/eco more / go for a snipe. I don't see why it needs to be removed. Since when has it been a problem?

Statistics: Posted by ZaphodX — 25 Mar 2013, 12:45

Re: No score in ranked game

2013-03-25T11:38:35+02:00

If you are able to know what build your enemy is doing with the score, you are able to build a scout and use it.

And it's easier to make a scout than counting score.

Statistics: Posted by Ze_PilOt — 25 Mar 2013, 11:38

Re: No score in ranked game

2013-03-25T11:36:50+02:00

Wow. I remember even in the SC1 days people wanted this gone, mainly top tier players who saw it as unbalancing higher end builds.

The game is way to epic and huge to actually scout everything. I always found it helpful, you knew if you opponent was pushing eco, an early Com upgrade - and you could react accordingly. There is a risk that this will skew games as players who scout things too late instantly lose.

I mean was this necessary? Who made this decision?

Statistics: Posted by Sleeper Service — 25 Mar 2013, 11:36

Re: No score in ranked game

2013-03-25T09:05:20+02:00

I will check that tonight.

Statistics: Posted by Ze_PilOt — 25 Mar 2013, 09:05

Re: No score in ranked game

2013-03-25T03:30:16+02:00

I second that.. even if I wait for the game to say "Game over", the popup says that the game is not over, and the scores are not viewable... it just closes FA.

If I watch a replay, I get the proper score summary though.

Statistics: Posted by Doompants — 25 Mar 2013, 03:30

Re: No score in ranked game

2013-03-25T02:05:50+02:00

Ze_PilOt wrote:
No. It will stay this way.
Just way for the "game over" popup to display before leaving the game, and it will work.

this does not work.

Statistics: Posted by rootbeer23 — 25 Mar 2013, 02:05