Forged Alliance Forever

Re: new type of game (idea)

2012-01-07T17:03:33+02:00

Treble wrote:
I might be missing something glaringly obvious here that would discount this whole idea, but it was just an idea I had.

The glaringly obvious thing here is that everybody plays with autogive mod. Despite the fact that 3610 automatically gives your allies all your stuff when you die/disconnect/etc (provided death-sharing is not prohibited), people still use the mod because it gives stuff 20 seconds sooner.

With that in mind, it would not be difficult to code the OnDefeat script to make it so only certain unit types die or only certain others live. However, I fail to see how this would address the underlying problem that ARMA has expressed.

Statistics: Posted by FunkOff — 07 Jan 2012, 17:03

Re: new type of game (idea)

2012-01-07T13:01:30+02:00

Share-Factories and Units-Only

This is still assassination but is a compromise between Full-Share and Share-Until-Death as one is a punishment to kill a commander and the other is usually game over after the first snipe.

You lose your commander, you're dead. All your mexes, pgens, storage and engineers explode. All your units and factories remain and are shared to the highest scoring allied player as in the auto-share mod.

There is no longer an extreme eco boost to the player who was already eco'ing the hardest as he will need to rebuild the destroyed base. He will have the units, hopefully, to defend it while he rebuilds, or make the final push that his teammate couldn't finish.

I think it will be a small nerf to eco only players because their efforts will have been for nothing if they die, and it could encourage teammates to finish a tactic that their ally began.

I might be missing something glaringly obvious here that would discount this whole idea, but it was just an idea I had.

Statistics: Posted by Treble — 07 Jan 2012, 13:01

Re: new type of game (idea)

2012-01-07T12:41:44+02:00

What about if say only one type of thing died. Say when a comm dies, all the eco dies with him, but facts/units survive. Mebbie the other way around. With surviving units, the eco can be rebuilt at a fraction of the cost, but it is still a eco hit. This was an idea that treble suggested. I think it has merit and should be given serious thought. It stops a game from being over from a sniped comm or a player that didnt perform. As it is, a team game is only as strong as the weakest player.

Statistics: Posted by ToejamS — 07 Jan 2012, 12:41

Re: new type of game (idea)

2012-01-06T22:18:10+02:00

FunkOff wrote:
A better idea would be play it like supremacy, except that after your ACU dies, every 10 seconds, a random 10% of your units gets stunned for 10 seconds. -50% eco nerf is killer. But only having 10% of your stuff stunned, and none of it perma stunned? That would probably be a less killer debuff.... but it would certainly be enough to be strongly felt.

funk I said 50% of nerf for say something, we could do a modificator for that and before start choose the quantity of the nerf if com die, like between 10% and 90% of nerf, lol, taht need be tested ,but could be better if we can choose that between a range of nerfs

Statistics: Posted by Armmagedon — 06 Jan 2012, 22:18

Re: new type of game (idea)

2012-01-06T20:12:16+02:00

A better idea would be play it like supremacy, except that after your ACU dies, every 10 seconds, a random 10% of your units gets stunned for 10 seconds. -50% eco nerf is killer. But only having 10% of your stuff stunned, and none of it perma stunned? That would probably be a less killer debuff.... but it would certainly be enough to be strongly felt.

Statistics: Posted by FunkOff — 06 Jan 2012, 20:12

Re: new type of game (idea)

2012-01-06T20:10:21+02:00

Armmagedon wrote:
someone know how code some of that ideas ?

Mental's idea would be pretty easy to code, but I don't really know why you'd want the game to work that way. You lose your ACU/SCUs and you have, let's say, 2 minutes to get a new SCU before you lose, but all your stuff is EMPed for 1 minute? If you don't already have a gate + a ton of engineers + a half-built SCU already, this doesn't change anything. I possess the ability to code this, but I don't think it's a good idea.

Statistics: Posted by FunkOff — 06 Jan 2012, 20:10

Re: new type of game (idea)

2012-01-06T16:45:28+02:00

mental i think that your idea is more hard to code, but really i dont know

someone know how code some of that ideas ?

i need more opinions bitches

Statistics: Posted by Armmagedon — 06 Jan 2012, 16:45

Re: new type of game (idea)

2012-01-05T18:33:38+02:00

Ok i've thought of a possible alternative, lets call it Uplink. When all commander & sub commander units die all you units/building become emped for a set amount time say one or two minutes.

When the all your current commander units are dead you are given a time limit to rebuild a support commander otherwise punishment is the lose the condition. This would be a deminishing timer that ticks away when you have no acu or support commanders, insert fancy lore about only being able to remote connect to planet units for set time hence calling it uplink.

Statistics: Posted by Mental_Diversion — 05 Jan 2012, 18:33

Re: new type of game (idea)

2012-01-05T18:10:25+02:00

For that the type of game that i say in the first message can fix that com tactics, and let ppl play after lose his com by sniping

like a fixed supremacy

Statistics: Posted by Armmagedon — 05 Jan 2012, 18:10

Re: new type of game (idea)

2012-01-05T17:15:05+02:00

tahts why sup on small maps fails so badly and hard.

Sup mean you only need to kill the units and building and u win
so it basiocly last enermy standing match

Statistics: Posted by Reddev32 — 05 Jan 2012, 17:15

Re: new type of game (idea)

2012-01-05T12:55:40+02:00

imagine one game 1v1 or 2v2 or whatever, your oponent take his com and go to your base in the 2 min and kill all your engies and reclaim all your facts and OC all your E, with the dps of your com he have time for do that and more, and if he send a few of units with him some artys or something you will have no base when the combomb explode, if the enemy dont have a eco nerf youre fucked by million of spam or huge eco vs your destroyed base

Statistics: Posted by Armmagedon — 05 Jan 2012, 12:55

Re: new type of game (idea)

2012-01-05T12:17:47+02:00

comander death nuke does 2500 hp to units, but not to buildings, dunno what is the amount of damage against buildings but it isnt so huge. Just take your units away and end the comander with your acu if its posible... if not blame your oponent hard.lol

Statistics: Posted by Isen — 05 Jan 2012, 12:17

Re: new type of game (idea)

2012-01-04T17:53:52+02:00

nice idea arm but whats to stop poeple com bombing your entire bass.

the acu nuke is now 2.5k its still will take out your entire eco system and your enginners assiting your facs thats the other problems. but small maps sup fails big map sup wins kinda.

Statistics: Posted by Reddev32 — 04 Jan 2012, 17:53

Re: new type of game (idea)

2012-01-04T16:35:48+02:00

I know that, but some ppl say me that if we start to play supremacy ppl will start to use the combomb tactic,
and kryo lose your com and finish the game isnt the same that haven 50% eco, you continue in the game and have all your units then can attack or can reclaim your base for help mates or can only resist for your oponent dont attack your mates.

the problem with supremacy dont is only abuse combomb, the problem is that we will se many coms flying to back of bases or using it like rambo with no care, and taht could be really annoying in some games

Statistics: Posted by Armmagedon — 04 Jan 2012, 16:35

Re: new type of game (idea)

2012-01-04T14:26:02+02:00

Yes, and there is not that stupid ACU deathnuke change which was present in original 3603 from GPG, where you basically could just sacrifice your ACU for an exp or huge t3 army coming for you and kill it effortlessly.
(ACU deathnuke was 60k damage)

Statistics: Posted by Raging_Squirrel — 04 Jan 2012, 14:26