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Re: Old "Slowing Down Late" Issue...

2014-02-20T00:31:55+02:00

Not really.

Statistics: Posted by Ze_PilOt — 20 Feb 2014, 00:31

Re: Old "Slowing Down Late" Issue...

2014-02-20T00:23:34+02:00

Well in Duncane there are also some preset behaviour AI's not present in Sorian (and pretty interesting as well)

Statistics: Posted by necxelos — 20 Feb 2014, 00:23

Re: Old "Slowing Down Late" Issue...

2014-02-19T22:01:25+02:00

Duncan AI fixes are implemented for next patch.

I have to say that most of the fixes were already there. Only minor tweaks to AI behaviors were missing, nothing fancy. Still better to use sorian AI.

Statistics: Posted by Ze_PilOt — 19 Feb 2014, 22:01

Re: Old "Slowing Down Late" Issue...

2014-02-17T05:40:36+02:00

jfridge wrote:
does lowering settings help with this in any way?

necxelos wrote:
In game I play on everything at maximum settings except for antialiasing which I turn off (at my resolution antialiasing gives absolutely nothing - totally overrated and outdated technology if You ask me). But for testing purposes I did test on minimum as well (no difference at all - same stuttering and slowing down at lategame).

Statistics: Posted by necxelos — 17 Feb 2014, 05:40

Re: Old "Slowing Down Late" Issue...

2014-02-16T23:15:30+02:00

does lowering settings help with this in any way?

Statistics: Posted by NewEntity — 16 Feb 2014, 23:15

Re: Old "Slowing Down Late" Issue...

2014-02-16T02:37:24+02:00

necxelos wrote:
except for antialiasing which I turn off (at my resolution antialiasing gives absolutely nothing - totally overrated and outdated technology

True DAT?

Take a look at the best CPU your MB can take on the manufacturer website and buy that CPU on Ebay for 20€. Should be a something like a Q6000-8000 if your MB isnt that old. Otherwise you have to get a new CPU and MB i'd think.

Statistics: Posted by Kulu — 16 Feb 2014, 02:37

Re: Old "Slowing Down Late" Issue...

2014-02-16T02:32:44+02:00

All RAM exactly identical (I know that mixing up RAM never ends up well - I was raised in IT family) and it's 4x1GB in my case.

As for money-consuming prices depend on a country (for example British people have hardware cheaper then food) but as far as my country prices go on, the motherboard + CPU is 70% price of the whole new PC price (screen not included).

Anyway it has to be CPU after all. Overclocking it a little more changes things a little (but I'm not gonna use that solution because it's also overheating too much). Guess I'm stuck at "below 1 hour" games for some time

Thanks for all the advice anyway

Statistics: Posted by necxelos — 16 Feb 2014, 02:32

Re: Old "Slowing Down Late" Issue...

2014-02-16T02:08:23+02:00

necxelos wrote:
I know them all just didn't think such precise information changes anything. Here it is then:
- Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 2,33 overclocked to 2,66 (old CPU I know but this is the most expensive part of PC and forces changing everything, because new CPU requires new motherboard which is not compatible with old RAM and so on),
- 4 GB RAM DDR 2 speed 1066, fixed down to 667 value because my motherboard (BIOS actually) don't like higher speeds,
- Windows 7 64 bit,
- Radeon HD 7700, which was the most cost-effective GPU bought half a year ago,
- 1920 x 1080 Samsung LCD, led lighted,

In game I play on everything at maximum settings except for antialiasing which I turn off (at my resolution antialiasing gives absolutely nothing - totally overrated and outdated technology if You ask me). But for testing purposes I did test on minimum as well (no difference at all - same stuttering and slowing down at lategame).

Well, changing CPU does not always mean changing motherboard (and by the way they are by far the cheapest part of PC), but that still doesnt explain your symptoms, game will slow down a bit but not that much and not in 10x10 2 player game, I'd say it might be your RAM acting up, if you have problems with your BIOS (what I find hard to imagine) you might try to upgrade it, it's more like that your motherboard just cant handle RAM you stuck in there, can you give us exact motherboard and RAM models?
Also, check your motherboard manual, it should say what is the maximum for RAM (in both speed and size).
You also didnt mention how is the RAM divided, or is it in one module? If it is I'm 90% sure that it's motherboard and RAM incopability, back when CPUs of your and mine class were popular motherboards were capped to 1 or 2 GB per module.
Are all of your RAM modules exactly the same or are they from diffent brands and/or speeds/sizes?

Statistics: Posted by Sulo — 16 Feb 2014, 02:08

Re: Old "Slowing Down Late" Issue...

2014-02-16T01:28:31+02:00

It's really very simple - That CPU is just too slow to expect FA to not slow down late game. You can expect perhaps 15 minutes above 0 SimSpeed on a 5K map, 10 minutes on a 10K map, and on 20K it will slow down even faster. Additionally, Windows 7 uses a lot more resources up in the background than XP did, so a slow CPU will already be preloaded quite a bit. What the machine can do in other games is irrelevant, FA is a notoriously demanding game on the CPU, especially older ones such as yours. I'm afraid there just isn't much anyone can do

Statistics: Posted by IceDreamer — 16 Feb 2014, 01:28

Re: Old "Slowing Down Late" Issue...

2014-02-16T01:03:55+02:00

I know them all just didn't think such precise information changes anything. Here it is then:
- Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 2,33 overclocked to 2,66 (old CPU I know but this is the most expensive part of PC and forces changing everything, because new CPU requires new motherboard which is not compatible with old RAM and so on),
- 4 GB RAM DDR 2 speed 1066, fixed down to 667 value because my motherboard (BIOS actually) don't like higher speeds,
- Windows 7 64 bit,
- Radeon HD 7700, which was the most cost-effective GPU bought half a year ago,
- 1920 x 1080 Samsung LCD, led lighted,

In game I play on everything at maximum settings except for antialiasing which I turn off (at my resolution antialiasing gives absolutely nothing - totally overrated and outdated technology if You ask me). But for testing purposes I did test on minimum as well (no difference at all - same stuttering and slowing down at lategame).

Statistics: Posted by necxelos — 16 Feb 2014, 01:03

Re: Old "Slowing Down Late" Issue...

2014-02-15T17:29:09+02:00

Just an FYI, if you do not know the specifics of your PC hardware, utilize CPU-Z to get any and all specific information.

Statistics: Posted by The Mak — 15 Feb 2014, 17:29

Re: Old "Slowing Down Late" Issue...

2014-02-15T12:07:38+02:00

necxelos wrote:
b) I have Dual 2,6 GHZ

Can you give the full name of the processor? 2.6 GHz dual core is enough to play the game for some time, but you're not going to hold for an hour.

4GB RAM fixed at 667

667 MHz? That's slow RAM, but it should not be much of a problem.

new Radeon with 1GB RAM on it and all the newest shaders and stuff

Again, can you give the full name of the graphics card. The 1GB video RAM is worthless when your screen resolution is not high enough: less pixels means less ram required. For the actual calculations of the graphics (the explosions, lasers etc.) you need proper processing speed. If it is a new GPU, I'm fairly sure it's a good one, but there are low end slow graphics cards with 1GB ram. You really want to stay away from those things.

Statistics: Posted by Plasma_Wolf — 15 Feb 2014, 12:07

Re: Old "Slowing Down Late" Issue...

2014-02-15T11:20:33+02:00

He isnt... but really a 2.6ghz dual core really isnt very specific... its not enough info to go on... hence the tablet comment...

Statistics: Posted by SomeoneAUS — 15 Feb 2014, 11:20

Re: Old "Slowing Down Late" Issue...

2014-02-15T11:13:29+02:00

prodromos wrote:
My tablet's proc is quad and 2.3 ghz, but I can't expect it to run supcom, at all.

You can't seriously be comparing an ARM to a Core 2 processor, there is a large TDP difference, transistor count and general design difference.

Statistics: Posted by da_monstr — 15 Feb 2014, 11:13

Re: Old "Slowing Down Late" Issue...

2014-02-15T09:00:56+02:00

I can perfectly feel you, if you can't buy a new proc, but a replay slowing down after an hour and not running at x10 speed
should be the least of your concerns.
You should basically be concerned if you can run the aforementioned game at 0 sim speed after an hour.

.. and you don't give any specs; a dual at 2.6ghz, seriously?
My tablet's proc is quad and 2.3 ghz, but I can't expect it to run supcom, at all.

Statistics: Posted by prodromos — 15 Feb 2014, 09:00