Forged Alliance Forever

Re: Insane repair cost for upgrading buildings.

2014-04-01T20:15:25+02:00

hum there is another thing to point out... I don't know if this update fix it, but when you pause the upgrade of your mexx, and then order your engie to assist, if your mexx received damage (before engies start to assit the upgrade), engie will repair the mexx, but won't assist the upgrade. and you can give several time the assist order, it won't matter. you have to un-pause the mexx to allow engie to assist.

Statistics: Posted by keyser — 01 Apr 2014, 20:15

Re: Insane repair cost for upgrading buildings.

2014-04-01T01:00:15+02:00

Crotalus wrote:
Yeah true... it's just irritating that damaged mexes still are damaged to the same degree after spending an upgrade on them. You have to remember to repair them before you upgrade them to not "waste" hitpoints.

Another solution would be to slowly increase maximum hitpoints and hitpoints when you upgrade something, instead of right now when it jumps right up after upgrade is complete.

In replays you can see T2 mexes being upgraded to T3's as T3 mexes with increasing health on top of Full health T2 mexes

Statistics: Posted by E8400-CV — 01 Apr 2014, 01:00

Re: Insane repair cost for upgrading buildings.

2014-03-31T17:54:29+02:00

You'd still want to repair before upgrading though, because upgrading and then repairing is still more expensive (but less so). Perhaps the damage after upgrade should be relative to mass cost instead of just subtracting the same HP, so that repairing before or after upgrading costs exactly the same.

Statistics: Posted by Vee — 31 Mar 2014, 17:54

Re: Insane repair cost for upgrading buildings.

2014-03-31T17:53:46+02:00

Thanks Crotalus.

Crotalus wrote:
Fixed bug with wrong consumption values when repairing upgrading structures

What are the 'right' consumption values when repairing upgrading structures? Is it based off of the current level structure or the upgraded level (or somewhere in between)?

Statistics: Posted by JeeVeS — 31 Mar 2014, 17:53

Re: Insane repair cost for upgrading buildings.

2014-03-31T17:32:56+02:00

Yeah true... it's just irritating that damaged mexes still are damaged to the same degree after spending an upgrade on them. You have to remember to repair them before you upgrade them to not "waste" hitpoints.

Another solution would be to slowly increase maximum hitpoints and hitpoints when you upgrade something, instead of right now when it jumps right up after upgrade is complete.

Statistics: Posted by Crotalus — 31 Mar 2014, 17:32

Re: Insane repair cost for upgrading buildings.

2014-03-31T16:39:32+02:00

Crotalus wrote:
Made damage on structures after upgrade more logical, instead of using % of old structure's HP it substracts the damage from the new structures maximum hitpoints. Otherwise you have to manually repair a structure before upgrading.

i want point out, that this change is not really fixing any bug, it is more like balance change, that improves defender advantage alittle bit, not sure if i am against that change tho...

Statistics: Posted by ZLO_RD — 31 Mar 2014, 16:39

Re: Insane repair cost for upgrading buildings.

2014-03-31T11:52:08+02:00

Super!!!

Statistics: Posted by E8400-CV — 31 Mar 2014, 11:52

Re: Insane repair cost for upgrading buildings.

2014-03-31T07:46:14+02:00

Fixed the bug with repairing upgrading structures, I've committed the change to the repository so zep can include it in FAF.

Whole list of bugfixes:

Avoid triggering death explosions (SCU / Paragon) when giving units at player death. This is an old fix that somehow got lost in the repository before getting live.
Fixed bug with enhancing units that are paused but assisted by engineers . The progress bar didn't update and enhancements never counted as complete until unit was unpaused
Fixed bug with mexes not having right production values if mass storages are built while they are upgrading
Fixed bug with wrong consumption values when repairing upgrading structures
Made damage on structures after upgrade more logical, instead of using % of old structure's HP it substracts the damage from the new structures maximum hitpoints. Otherwise you have to manually repair a structure before upgrading.

Statistics: Posted by Crotalus — 31 Mar 2014, 07:46

Re: Insane repair cost for upgrading buildings.

2014-03-30T21:34:03+02:00

500 hp is OP anyway

Statistics: Posted by ZLO_RD — 30 Mar 2014, 21:34

Re: Insane repair cost for upgrading buildings.

2014-03-30T21:31:17+02:00

Because cyb shields were not already annoying enough to upgrade

Statistics: Posted by Nombringer — 30 Mar 2014, 21:31

Re: Insane repair cost for upgrading buildings.

2014-03-30T20:36:38+02:00

ya bug is still there
this can realy f*** up your eco

Statistics: Posted by Mr-Smith — 30 Mar 2014, 20:36

Re: Insane repair cost for upgrading buildings.

2014-03-30T20:12:41+02:00

That bug is still there , also for mexes (repairing upgrading mex = BAD)

Statistics: Posted by Blackheart — 30 Mar 2014, 20:12

Re: Insane repair cost for upgrading buildings.

2014-03-30T19:59:48+02:00

you sure it happened with FAF version of game? i thought it was fixed, at least for extractors...

Statistics: Posted by ZLO_RD — 30 Mar 2014, 19:59

Insane repair cost for upgrading buildings.

2014-03-30T19:12:36+02:00

It appears that when you repair any upgrading building (factory, radar, sonar, mex, hive, kennel, etc), you are charged the fixed amount of 10 mass and 10 energy per unit of build capacity. So a t1 com (10 build power) repairing a t1 mex that is upgrading to a t2 mex is charged 100mass and 100energy per second. Obviously for most (all?) buildings this repair will quickly exceed the mass worth of the upgraded building. It is also much more expensive then the upgraded forms of these buildings are to repair.

This is likely the reason you have stalled hard while tending to an upgrading building under fire.

Statistics: Posted by JeeVeS — 30 Mar 2014, 19:12