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Re: my probably stupid question

2014-08-28T10:08:21+02:00

yea i've seen titans in the Red, with recharged shields killing stuff... pretty neat trick.

Loyalists are pretty much better in too many ways, techinally you get more DPS and HP for your mass with both assualt bots then you do with the Brick and Percival.

Statistics: Posted by Typo91 — 28 Aug 2014, 10:08

Re: my probably stupid question

2014-08-27T16:53:20+02:00

Everything except can't repair itself (ie shield)

Statistics: Posted by rockoe10 — 27 Aug 2014, 16:53

Re: my probably stupid question

2014-08-26T04:31:59+02:00

range, dps, frontloaded, better vet, stuns on death, tmd

Statistics: Posted by Deering — 26 Aug 2014, 04:31

Re: my probably stupid question

2014-08-25T20:38:45+02:00

NodCommander wrote:
BRNKoINSANITY wrote:The range of the TMD is very small.... you basically have to stand directly under the incoming fire. If you do manage to predict where the tml are coming in and stand there though, the tmd is as reliable as stationary defense is.

Counter ACU Billy with Loyalists for extra laughs!

On a balance related note: Would you people say the Loyalist plays roughly the same role as the Titan, aka fast raider/defender?

A Loyalist is everything a Titan is, but better (mainly range I think).

Statistics: Posted by Aurion — 25 Aug 2014, 20:38

Re: my probably stupid question

2014-08-25T20:30:01+02:00

BRNKoINSANITY wrote:
The range of the TMD is very small.... you basically have to stand directly under the incoming fire. If you do manage to predict where the tml are coming in and stand there though, the tmd is as reliable as stationary defense is.

Counter ACU Billy with Loyalists for extra laughs!

On a balance related note: Would you people say the Loyalist plays roughly the same role as the Titan, aka fast raider/defender?

Statistics: Posted by NodCommander — 25 Aug 2014, 20:30

Re: my probably stupid question

2014-08-25T02:00:03+02:00

Iszh wrote:
The Titan has a problem which is a general problem for uef. Titan loses mass to mass against other factions t2 tanks and bots. But uef cannot really compete in mass with pillars against other t2 or at least not for a long time or in big numbers. There is a black hole between t1 and percival.

rhino with medusa beats pillar
ylshavoh + t1 ari is no question more range more dps more life
obsidian with or without shields and auroras behind will clean pillars like air

In bigger numbers if you are crazy enough to stay on t2 level as uef you need mongoose bots with shields.

It would be nice to see that titan can win mass euqal against t2 of other factions. I think range is needed for this just a bit. Then uef can do a t3 rush which is suicide at the moment since you spent 4k mass for a t3 factory just to be owned by t2.

And the story about the t2 is no fairytale. You can test it. Obsidians of aeon not only win against titans the smash them.

Can't confirm this. Titans win vs. Obsidians mass for mass in my test.

Statistics: Posted by SC-Account — 25 Aug 2014, 02:00

Re: my probably stupid question

2014-08-24T22:55:34+02:00

They brought the rocket pack back in FA via the Spearhead, UEF T3 Mobile Missile Launcher.

Statistics: Posted by The Mak — 24 Aug 2014, 22:55

Re: my probably stupid question

2014-08-24T19:37:18+02:00

Not a clue.

Statistics: Posted by BRNKoINSANITY — 24 Aug 2014, 19:37

Re: my probably stupid question

2014-08-24T19:23:00+02:00

BRNKoINSANITY wrote:
This is why loyalists have TMD built in.... as originally designed, the titan would have TML rocket pack, and the direct counter was loyalists with boomerang TMD. The rocket pack was removed in the alpha stages, but the TMD stayed on the loyalists. There were many instances of stuff like this not making it into the game that was in the trailer. ACU shooting air units is another that comes immediately to mind.

Any idea why they kept the TMD when they removed the rocket pack?

Statistics: Posted by RedX — 24 Aug 2014, 19:23

Re: my probably stupid question

2014-08-23T13:44:06+02:00

The range of the TMD is very small.... you basically have to stand directly under the incoming fire. If you do manage to predict where the tml are coming in and stand there though, the tmd is as reliable as stationary defense is.

Statistics: Posted by BRNKoINSANITY — 23 Aug 2014, 13:44

Re: my probably stupid question

2014-08-23T13:28:40+02:00

I tried use loyalists use againt cruisers TML and sometime it worked, sometime doesnt

I dont think I could depend on it

Statistics: Posted by ZeRen — 23 Aug 2014, 13:28

Re: my probably stupid question

2014-08-23T06:04:10+02:00

This is why loyalists have TMD built in.... as originally designed, the titan would have TML rocket pack, and the direct counter was loyalists with boomerang TMD. The rocket pack was removed in the alpha stages, but the TMD stayed on the loyalists. There were many instances of stuff like this not making it into the game that was in the trailer. ACU shooting air units is another that comes immediately to mind.

Statistics: Posted by BRNKoINSANITY — 23 Aug 2014, 06:04

Re: my probably stupid question

2014-08-23T05:33:44+02:00

psychkik wrote:
That is exacly what i was looking for. Thank you so much.
This will be applied in my next uef game ^^

so another question. I have noticed that in te trailer titans have a missile laucher on top like the cybran t1 anti air.
Why has that been removed.
My taughts that it gave to much power (unlikely)
Second that it took to much rendering for a totaly shit weapon in regards of the unit itself

There's actually a lot of units that have weapons visible but not functional. It's a fairly common occurrence in RTS games, and games in general. The artist talks to the initial design team and goes off on their own. The design team talks balance, and the engineering team talks function. They conclude that unit doesn't need that weapon, and it never gets implemented. The artist comes back with the mode, having never heard that discussion, and they all decide to keep it how it is because it looks cool or would be a waste of time to remove.

Statistics: Posted by RedX — 23 Aug 2014, 05:33

Re: my probably stupid question

2014-08-23T05:04:22+02:00

There was a patch mod that used them. I can't remember them ever officially having the rockets

Statistics: Posted by rockoe10 — 23 Aug 2014, 05:04

Re: my probably stupid question

2014-08-22T00:29:32+02:00

That is exacly what i was looking for. Thank you so much.
This will be applied in my next uef game ^^

so another question. I have noticed that in te trailer titans have a missile laucher on top like the cybran t1 anti air.
Why has that been removed.
My taughts that it gave to much power (unlikely)
Second that it took to much rendering for a totaly shit weapon in regards of the unit itself

Statistics: Posted by psychkik — 22 Aug 2014, 00:29