Forged Alliance Forever

Re: About bans, and my policy discussing them in the future.

2015-03-07T00:01:23+02:00

This thread has 11 pages now. I think all users who wanted to say something have expressed their opinion. I read the whole thread and made my thoughts about it.

As a result of this:

I. Kathrine will stay banned.
II. The Dictator is unbanned and changed his name.

I saw that many players said that the FAF ban from Dictator was too hard. Thats why we (the moderator team) will be less strict about "bad" usernames in the future.
Furthermore the moderator actions at the forum (editing/deleting posts) will be more transparent in the future.

If you want to report a player or discuss a ban, you have to write a private message to the irc moderator group here at the forum or to a moderator (not visionik).

This thread is closed.

-Voodoo

Statistics: Posted by Voodoo — 07 Mar 2015, 00:01

Re: About bans, and my policy discussing them in the future.

2015-03-06T23:19:58+02:00

2 words...

Good BAN...

Keep up the awesome work mods...

Statistics: Posted by sumgekko — 06 Mar 2015, 23:19

Re: About bans, and my policy discussing them in the future.

2015-03-06T22:58:51+02:00

Ze_PilOt wrote:
I've burned out after 3 years, it's been only 4 months

totally underrated post.

needs more likes.

laughed my ass off.

Statistics: Posted by tatsu — 06 Mar 2015, 22:58

Re: About bans, and my policy discussing them in the future.

2015-03-06T21:58:54+02:00

I love FAF, which is why I have donated to it. I am grateful for the hard work done by ZeP, Visionik and all the moderators, tests developers and promoters. I would not take any of that on as a paid job because I do not have the patience to deal with some of the people we encounter here. I am amazed any of them can stick it.

Most services and businesses have conditions of entry and use, is it such a big ask to not use offensive names and play the game like a decent person and treat other people in chat with courtesy you would show them if face to face???

If this is such a big ask, then given up your FREE Faf access and try that nonsense with the latest Microsoft or Blizzard game, that you have paid for.. oh wait.. they ban you?? With no appeal??

Grow up, FAF works because of hard work and some great community members, but it is fragile, please do not kill it

Statistics: Posted by luckyNot — 06 Mar 2015, 21:58

Re: About bans, and my policy discussing them in the future.

2015-03-06T21:40:43+02:00

So TAG_MaXimuS = Ikatherine? Yet another nick? Nice.

Pls stop presenting yourself as the victim for once. I have tried to talk to you so often and you keep lying. It's a sad story.

And yes, whenever you joined one of my games I told the others about you. I think it's just fair to let them know that there is a smurf around who is notorious for ruining games. Don't you think they should know about that? I even told you a few times to stay away from my games. You joined nonetheless. You also tried to sneak in with numerous nick changes. That was just so super annyoing.

You have been warned before and you have even been banned. They let you return but still you keep ignoring the rules. That demonstrates very clearly that you have no respect at all for the mods and the community. This ban is all on you. This community deserves better than people like IKatherine and you know it.

Statistics: Posted by Shai--Hulud — 06 Mar 2015, 21:40

Re: About bans, and my policy discussing them in the future.

2015-03-06T20:40:46+02:00

Actualy in my last games i was try to improve and was play very well what make this ban kind ironic but i have to respect.

Players where ask me to join their games and that was make me feel good and respect by the 1 time here honastly.

Its not my thing do this blame players but this only time must be.....

This was the players that where constatly join where i was or if i join where they where well they keep spread all my history over and over day after day. (Ninrai,Shai--Hulud,D4E_Omit,jcvjcvjcvjcv)

Wy i dont now, but probably bec the only times i play vs them i win,that was my bad i think .

Special ninrai 1 game really wanted play vs me on asf i didnt want e press over and over to i play vs him on lobby on private msg was bit anoying have to say, i play vs him Shai--Hulud was on that game and result was , and when i win he ctrl+k all his stuff let his team alone and he with Shai--Hulud start say ( you see shes smurf baned 1000 times horrible peason not let her play, lets baned her from faf she got 100 accounts) comon stop hit on the shadow .

Actualy after that day, players start really not let me play, and my old history comes up again .

And this 2 players Ninrai and Shai--Hulud are friends and has most now, they play together, dunno if they keep do that ,so they join forces agains me since they now all hate me,its ok i learn to deal with that its life, we cant pleasure all.

Im not say that some games i just give up, because my team only look to me, wait i do all and fix them mistakes .
On some games i start do that helping all players bec they new i was there (comon im not god ) im ust to multitasking but i dont like see my team just watching me play so i start get tired that and just do what all do watch them do nothing...

Havent you guys have this kind experience, iff yes wy me?

I got nothing against this 4 players but seems they see me everywhere in + 1300 faf players .

They start spread loud to all admin and players, try find pictures and replays of my games to finish me ( i give them merit they did it) i dont now wy so mush hate on me.

I will make Gorton change his thought about me in future, he really hates me ,and i never talk to him, the only time i talk was to show him a replay, that i wont talk about what it was, since was because that he baned me .

If i havent show him that replay i still was playing with my friends.

I change name because since no one let me play they hate IKatherine name ,after i change to JellyCreamDonut things change and players start let me play without kick me and they new who i where we only 3/4 portuguese players ,im the only that play seton .

we cant keep remind a player because his old history, clean that plz,remenber the present days and you will see lot players are doing must worst then what you think i done or all faf players saints

Im baned because this not for what most think since i was play normal long time 1.JPG

If some one of moderators have warn me 1 time...Just 1 time about something i stop do whatever was rong even iff i dont now what....

Have pass almost 3 years no one off admin have talk to me 1 time wy in 1 sec they baned me ? They got them reasons .

Again dont blame admin acts iff you where on them place what you have done?

Statistics: Posted by TAG_MaXimuS — 06 Mar 2015, 20:40

Re: About bans, and my policy discussing them in the future.

2015-03-06T20:00:36+02:00

I was originally planning not to pile-on to this already long thread, but I think this discussion has strayed from the main issue and is getting lost in the minutia. Some people are missing the forest for the trees.

FAF is a project run by volunteers. It was created by ZEP and consumed much of his life for 3 years. It is now continued by Visionik at a cost of both time and money. A handful of other people contribute their time to keep this community running. All for free.

This small group of people are responsible for technical development and for creating a community environment that is fun and welcoming to both new and experienced players. They volunteer their time to promote a game that would have otherwise faded away years ago. We all have them to thank for every FAF game we play.

So it concerns me when a few people create drama for no particular good reason. (For example, if a moderator asks you to change a somewhat offensive name, just change it. What is the big deal?) I am sure that people who get banned know that their behavior was borderline acceptable if not blatantly over the line. This kind of drama drains the energy of the management team. Eventually the volunteer management team will become so exhausted and jaded that they decide it is no longer worth the effort. This happened to Zep and it seems to be happening to Visionik. Given the panic that occurred during the few days between Zep’s leadership and Visionik, I am surprised the community has not spoken louder in support of these volunteers.

Many thanks to Zep, Visionik, and the rest of the volunteer team for creating a place for fans of SupCom to gather.

Statistics: Posted by Cynic — 06 Mar 2015, 20:00

Re: About bans, and my policy discussing them in the future.

2015-03-06T18:47:41+02:00

palombhp wrote:
Zoram wrote:
1. Play fair

Alrightie. Good luck with that, unfortunately

Statistics: Posted by -_V_- — 06 Mar 2015, 18:47

Re: About bans, and my policy discussing them in the future.

2015-03-06T18:20:46+02:00

palombhp wrote:
Zoram wrote:
Maybe rules should be written indeed.

Ok, I can start with that:

1. Play fair, be decent to others, don't behave like an Idiot

Didn't have any trouble yet

Some problem as the old rules.
>Dont behave like an idiot
Subjective

Statistics: Posted by Man_At_Arms — 06 Mar 2015, 18:20

Re: About bans, and my policy discussing them in the future.

2015-03-06T17:22:05+02:00

Zoram wrote:
Maybe rules should be written indeed.

Ok, I can start with that:

1. Play fair, be decent to others, don't behave like an Idiot

Didn't have any trouble yet

Statistics: Posted by palombhp — 06 Mar 2015, 17:22

Re: About bans, and my policy discussing them in the future.

2015-03-06T17:15:14+02:00

-_V_- wrote:
Ha. People still think the main goal of maintaining a rating is to bash noobs. So much negativity around, but nothing new.

You'd be surprised how much faster u can get a quite decent (hardly a noob bash) game when your rating is 1300-1400 than when you're above 2k.
Much much faster. And the FAF ingenious rating system is the only thing to blame for this. The% game quality is the worst cancer of all. People are now arguing until the % is > 95 even if it imbalances the game. I should take screenshots.

Also one may want to take a break from the mega-dickhead attitude (ironic, i know), in high rated games and play just for fun.
I speak from experience.

Consider that or remain in your obsessive thirst of seeing evil everywhere ?

I agree that tectec was really doing it for nasty purposes, but thats not always the case. Probably was the only one actually, and I had asked him to stop his shit but well...
None of my ex-smurfs (relax i'm only using one account now) had been created to noob bash.
N.O.N.E.

It seems you're replying to me , I'm talking about a dude maintaining a 280 rating and getting matched against people between -100 and 500, by quitting within minute one several times in a row or more generally generating fake draws or losses. I call that a toxic behavior which would make the ladder rating system totally obsolete if more people would play like that.

I'm 500 myself so I have no idea what kind of atmosphere reigns among 1000+ players. However given your general attitude here, I find it a bit ironic you would comment on other people's negativity.

Statistics: Posted by Zoram — 06 Mar 2015, 17:15

Re: About bans, and my policy discussing them in the future.

2015-03-06T17:09:37+02:00

Zoram wrote:
Avantic wrote:
Zoram wrote:
you seem to be under the impression doing that is considered a rule violation by the mods. it isnt.

You mean to tell me that cheating the ladder rating system is not cheating ?

I'm not talking about trying original strategies that end up losing, I'm talking about winning the game then surrendering fast enough that the game thinks its a draw or blowing up your own ACU after your opponent has been utterly destroyed to create a loss.

i'm talking about players who do exactly that: draw a 100% won game (1 vs 1) by whatever means. The result was a 500+ games <2% winrate statistic.
you wont find anything about them in the administrative actions thread though...

Statistics: Posted by Avantic — 06 Mar 2015, 17:09

Re: About bans, and my policy discussing them in the future.

2015-03-06T17:01:57+02:00

Ha. People still think the main goal of maintaining a rating is to bash noobs. So much negativity around, but nothing new.

You'd be surprised how much faster u can get a quite decent (hardly a noob bash) game when your rating is 1300-1400 than when you're above 2k.
Much much faster. And the FAF ingenious rating system is the only thing to blame for this. The% game quality is the worst cancer of all. People are now arguing until the % is > 95 even if it imbalances the game. I should take screenshots.

Also one may want to take a break from the mega-dickhead attitude (ironic, i know), in high rated games and play just for fun.
I speak from experience.

Consider that or remain in your obsessive thirst of seeing evil everywhere ?

I agree that tectec was really doing it for nasty purposes, but thats not always the case. Probably was the only one actually, and I had asked him to stop his shit but well...
None of my ex-smurfs (relax i'm only using one account now) had been created to noob bash.
N.O.N.E.

Statistics: Posted by -_V_- — 06 Mar 2015, 17:01

Re: About bans, and my policy discussing them in the future.

2015-03-06T17:01:05+02:00

Avantic wrote:
Zoram wrote:
you seem to be under the impression doing that is considered a rule violation by the mods. it isnt.

You mean to tell me that cheating the ladder rating system is not cheating ?

I'm not talking about trying original strategies that end up losing, I'm talking about winning the game then surrendering fast enough that the game thinks its a draw or blowing up your own ACU after your opponent has been utterly destroyed to create a loss.

Statistics: Posted by Zoram — 06 Mar 2015, 17:01

Re: About bans, and my policy discussing them in the future.

2015-03-06T16:45:41+02:00

Zoram wrote:
Maybe rules should be written indeed. But seriously, do you need written rules to tell you that consistently killing of your ACU in the second AFTER you've killed your opponent so you can get the victory feeling yet get a draw so that your ladder rank doesn't increase is not acceptable behavior ?

This has nothing to do with style of play, it's just lying about your rating to get a kick out of beating Noobs.

you seem to be under the impression doing that is considered a rule violation by the mods. it isnt.

Statistics: Posted by Avantic — 06 Mar 2015, 16:45