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Re: Antinuke with one missile in the clip did not fire

2013-10-04T04:20:07+02:00

That's nasty. Hitting a flying plane is OK for me, but hitting a landed int. ? Come on. How can one land IN a structure?

I did have multiple games with nukes hitting planes, both on accident and on purpose (ally flew 150 asf over bunch of enemy launchers), but hitting a landed plane on launch... that would be lame

That said, I had a game last week with two TML disappearing...

Statistics: Posted by E8400-CV — 04 Oct 2013, 04:20

Re: Antinuke with one missile in the clip did not fire

2013-10-02T18:24:39+02:00

Why don't we just set CollideWithFriendly = false on the projectile? It's a good thing that nukes can impact random stuff, but not the defences against friendlies.

Statistics: Posted by IceDreamer — 02 Oct 2013, 18:24

Re: Antinuke with one missile in the clip did not fire

2013-10-02T12:56:09+02:00

I agree with ZLO_RD. I have watched it again to be sure.

I am still pretty confused. Does that mean that it would be pretty dangerous to fire an antinuke if there is my airfore flying over my base?

You can imagine how i felt during the game. :/

Statistics: Posted by Shai-Hulud — 02 Oct 2013, 12:56

Re: Antinuke with one missile in the clip did not fire

2013-10-02T12:53:22+02:00

See my EDIT ZLO, I don't think it did. I zoomed in under the shield, used freelook to get a good angle, and watched at -10 speed. The Interceptor does not appear close enough to have caused this. If it did, then that is reason enough IMO to find some way of preventing clipping with allied AntiNukes.

http://faforever.com/faf/unitsDB/unit.php?bp=URB4302

see antinuke missile does 30 damage

now wach again and look at t1 interceptor that sit near antinuke and his wings are inside of antinuke

missile hit that int and it receaved 30 damage, i am 100% sure

Statistics: Posted by ZLO_RD — 02 Oct 2013, 12:53

Re: Antinuke with one missile in the clip did not fire

2013-10-02T12:50:20+02:00

Int was lain half inside in antinuke and receved 30 damage from antinuke missile

maybe we should increase antinuke/nuke/TML missiles HP and damage of counters to prevent nukes and antinukes get destroed by projectives

i mean just multiply HP of nuke missile on x and multiply damage of antinuke missile on x, and increase antinuke missile HP, so strategic missiles will tank few antiair shots, same could be done with TML/TMD

Statistics: Posted by ZLO_RD — 02 Oct 2013, 12:50

Re: Antinuke with one missile in the clip did not fire

2013-10-02T12:49:31+02:00

Not that this is the case in this replay probably (haven't watched it), but sometimes people complain about antinuke not working when in fact they were hit by a billy nuke

Statistics: Posted by Cantor — 02 Oct 2013, 12:49

Re: Antinuke with one missile in the clip did not fire

2013-10-02T12:48:35+02:00

The Interceptor was already landed and on the ground, and only partially clipping one wing into the edge of the structure. The missile spawns well above and to the North of it. If that collided at that distance, something's pretty messed up.

Statistics: Posted by IceDreamer — 02 Oct 2013, 12:48

Re: Antinuke with one missile in the clip did not fire

2013-10-02T12:45:07+02:00

WIthout watching the replay, i just want to say that it is indeed possible that anti nuke missiles hit intis/asfs. if this happened, the anti nuke will not fire again even though it may still have missiles loaded. (happened to me against yolona oss missile, 20 antinukes all loaded, but one antinuke accidently hit inti that was landing there, causing no other antinuke to fire another missile, gg )

Statistics: Posted by Blackheart — 02 Oct 2013, 12:45

Re: Antinuke with one missile in the clip did not fire

2013-10-02T12:41:33+02:00

See my EDIT ZLO, I don't think it did. I zoomed in under the shield, used freelook to get a good angle, and watched at -10 speed. The Interceptor does not appear close enough to have caused this. If it did, then that is reason enough IMO to find some way of preventing clipping with allied AntiNukes.

Statistics: Posted by IceDreamer — 02 Oct 2013, 12:41

Re: Antinuke with one missile in the clip did not fire

2013-10-02T12:32:26+02:00

I think antiuke hit the interceptor that was laing near antinuke, yes it hit int that was on the ground, waching again to be sure

Statistics: Posted by ZLO_RD — 02 Oct 2013, 12:32

Re: Antinuke with one missile in the clip did not fire

2013-10-02T12:39:58+02:00

It's an odd one I'll give you that. For some reasons the antinuke vanished somewhere, I'm having to watch it a second time to actually see what happened.

EDIT: Well my friend, that's one heck of a bug you've found. The Anitnuke projectile IS generated, it appears, begins launching, and then simply explodes before it leaves the structure. The is an allied Interceptor partially clipping the edge of the Silo, but it doesn't seem close enough to me to be causing the missile to impact it, especially as the missile is generated a goodly amount ABOVE the interceptor's height. Very, very odd, and definitely not deserving of a loss.

Statistics: Posted by IceDreamer — 02 Oct 2013, 12:29

Re: Antinuke with one missile in the clip did not fire

2013-10-02T11:04:36+02:00

Yes. He was aiming at my antinuke silo.

Statistics: Posted by Shai-Hulud — 02 Oct 2013, 11:04

Re: Antinuke with one missile in the clip did not fire

2013-10-02T11:01:54+02:00

Before checking the replays, are you sure the nuke was in the range of the antinuke?

Statistics: Posted by Ze_PilOt — 02 Oct 2013, 11:01

Antinuke with one missile in the clip did not fire

2013-10-02T11:03:28+02:00

Dear Community,

I am rather confused atm. I played a game (Cybran, Gap of Rohan, 4vs4) and everything went well. I built an antinuke silo in my firebase and there was enough time to get 1 antinuke constructed. One min. later though I got nuked by an enemy player (UEF, about min. 27). He nuked my firebase and my antinuke just didn't kick off.

Is this some kind of bug? My eco was fine.

There were no lags or desynchs in the game. I can watch the replay just fine too. However, someone from the forum had a look at it and he said that there were a lot of desynchs. I can record the replay as a videofile if necessary.

If this is a bug - is it possible to make the game unranked?

Thanks a lot for any kind of feedback. I hope I attached all the files necessary.

Regards
Shai-Hulud

EDIT:
Just watched the replay once more: I think my antinuke wanted to kick off - there is black smoke coming out of the missile defence silo but it vanishes after a second.

Statistics: Posted by Shai-Hulud — 02 Oct 2013, 10:44