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Re: Beetles OP after updates?

2015-08-27T11:58:48+02:00

thanks for your answer Sheeo. I though the topic got ereased

Well i still think bug fix patches section should be attached to the balance team. You probably have tons of other things to do Sheeo.
Anyway, hope this can be fixed soon.

Statistics: Posted by Lu_Xun_17 — 27 Aug 2015, 11:58

Re: Beetles OP after updates?

2015-08-26T00:42:16+02:00

Lu_Xun_17 wrote:
I never said that was your fault or what so ever, i just think this is your duty to patch it, and take care of that not to happen again.

Hey LuXy,

Zock deals with balance patch development. Besides the balance patches we also evolve the game publicly on github with the help of quite a few contributors. This development doesn't happen under the testing of the balance team, since they're busy testing the exact balance changes that they're performing.

We don't fully have a name for this group, but the work done isn't meant to affect balance at all. We merely implement what the balance team asks for (If needed) or improve the code and introduce new features as we please.

This is a regression caused by something that was implemented by the 'coding team' when making the beetles unable to detonate while in the air. It wasn't intended, and just above I've posted that we've got a fix for it ready in the next patch already.

Mostly I want to clear up whose "duty" it is to fix regressions -- and for now I'm responsible for fixing regressions caused by work from the github contributors.

Statistics: Posted by Sheeo — 26 Aug 2015, 00:42

Re: Beetles OP after updates?

2015-08-25T23:42:22+02:00

Reported and a fix pushed to develop here: https://github.com/FAForever/fa/issues/886.

Ready for the next patch.

Statistics: Posted by Sheeo — 25 Aug 2015, 23:42

Re: Beetles OP after updates?

2015-08-25T23:33:01+02:00

Attempts at "passing along the monkey" aside, this is a bug and I'm moving this thread to tech support for this reason.

To speed things up it'd be great with some replays depicting the behavior.

Statistics: Posted by Sheeo — 25 Aug 2015, 23:33

Re: Beetles OP after updates?

2015-08-25T23:02:57+02:00

I once made a mod for firebeetles where 'explode on death' was a toggle and they did friendly fire. Is till think that's how they should be

Statistics: Posted by Wakke — 25 Aug 2015, 23:02

Re: Beetles OP after updates?

2015-08-25T17:05:54+02:00

you know, beta patch was out just for few hours, I know it wasnt enough time for people to test it, but they could at least try I thing

Spoiler: show

Statistics: Posted by speed2 — 25 Aug 2015, 17:05

Re: Beetles OP after updates?

2015-08-25T16:21:08+02:00

i think its to do with that requested beetle abuse fix - trying to stop them from teleporting off trans
maybe that?

if that's the case i would love whoever did this to test before pushing the patch (seems to be a nice trend lately) : D

Statistics: Posted by Exotic_Retard — 25 Aug 2015, 16:21

Re: Beetles OP after updates?

2015-08-25T16:18:47+02:00

I never said that was your fault or what so ever, i just think this is your duty to patch it, and take care of that not to happen again.

Statistics: Posted by Lu_Xun_17 — 25 Aug 2015, 16:18

Re: Beetles OP after updates?

2015-08-25T16:13:51+02:00

The balance team has nothing to do with this, as Vee said.

Statistics: Posted by Zock — 25 Aug 2015, 16:13

Re: Beetles OP after updates?

2015-08-25T15:57:11+02:00

this is an extremly big mistake, i really hope the balance team will revert beetle in the next 24h.

Statistics: Posted by Lu_Xun_17 — 25 Aug 2015, 15:57

Re: Beetles OP after updates?

2015-08-26T00:12:37+02:00

Thanks for the report. This was not an intentional balance change. If a balance change is not in the patch notes, it's not an intentional change and please post a bug report

Statistics: Posted by Vee — 25 Aug 2015, 15:51

Re: Beetles OP after updates?

2015-08-25T10:53:56+02:00

Col_Walter_Kurtz wrote:
What else was changed exactly, they don't drop on the head of a moving ACU like they used to?

They dont need to anymore, if you kill the transport they explode

Statistics: Posted by speed2 — 25 Aug 2015, 10:53

Re: Beetles OP after updates?

2015-08-25T10:14:09+02:00

What else was changed exactly, they don't drop on the head of a moving ACU like they used to?

Statistics: Posted by Col_Walter_Kurtz — 25 Aug 2015, 10:14

Re: Beetles OP after updates?

2015-08-25T10:08:22+02:00

lol really? thats awesome, must have missed that in some patch notes .

Statistics: Posted by Mr-Smith — 25 Aug 2015, 10:08

Re: Beetles OP after updates?

2015-08-25T00:51:29+02:00

You could argue that if the beetles managed to get close enough to deal damage they should do so, no matter if they get killed or detonated. Maybe though only if they are currently not in a transport, because they could not be detonated from there, could they?

Statistics: Posted by Lionhardt — 25 Aug 2015, 00:51