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Re: Dealing with Mantis spam (as Aeon)

2013-02-01T13:28:07+02:00

Point defenses were quite effective, thanks!

Statistics: Posted by Valki — 01 Feb 2013, 13:28

Re: Dealing with Mantis spam (as Aeon)

2013-01-30T12:24:43+02:00

i am mantis spamer usually, and i can say that t1 pds are very annoyng, medusa is not anty t1 pd weapon, and i don't like to use it, even if it were buffed, (that actually strange buff)

mantis spamer always tryes to make zone of temporary firepower adwantage and snipe small group of your tanks with a large group of mantis, beware, don't split you forses to much, don't make fullish raids

also compare that to my experience fihting against mantis spamers, i can say you should not let mantis attak you from side, radar helps... dunno what else to say, walls can help you!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kDsUsvl0u8, also do not forget reclaim

Statistics: Posted by ZLO_RD — 30 Jan 2013, 12:24

Re: Dealing with Mantis spam (as Aeon)

2013-01-30T10:36:19+02:00

I find micro quite difficult against the fast Mantis, and the problem with slow tanks and static point defences is that they still allow the mantis to run rampant.

Still, I will try to build one PDS at all outlying positions, it will buy my bombers some time to do their work or my tanks time to arrive.

Statistics: Posted by Valki — 30 Jan 2013, 10:36

Re: Dealing with Mantis spam (as Aeon)

2013-01-30T00:31:52+02:00

well as aeon you will have to micro hard to beat mantis as you lose them quickly if they get close.
but vs mantis spam pds work realy good. as cybran players tend to not use much or less arty

uef and sera have it easy at their tabks pwn mantis in close combat.

Statistics: Posted by Mr-Smith — 30 Jan 2013, 00:31

Re: Dealing with Mantis spam (as Aeon)

2013-01-29T17:53:58+02:00

Flynn wrote:
Not really possible if you are loyal to your faction

Well, if you've always wanted to be a lady space-Buddhist then I don't think it's any of our business to tell you that you can't live your dream.

Statistics: Posted by Eukanuba — 29 Jan 2013, 17:53

Re: Dealing with Mantis spam (as Aeon)

2013-01-29T12:45:55+02:00

Not really possible if you are loyal to your faction

Statistics: Posted by Flynn — 29 Jan 2013, 12:45

Re: Dealing with Mantis spam (as Aeon)

2013-01-29T10:31:55+02:00

if you really want to know the counter to something, play it. so you see what it is like to have them with all their advantages and disadvantages. mostly as opponent you only see what is good about mantis but not the drawbacks. so play them and you recognize the drawbacks more obviously.

Statistics: Posted by Batmansrueckkehr — 29 Jan 2013, 10:31

Re: Dealing with Mantis spam (as Aeon)

2013-01-28T23:19:15+02:00

Aw man, this is basically what my thread is about. As a fellow Aeon Crusader, I find the Mantis particularly frustrating as well. If I play a match before going to bed I can hear the Mantis' lasers in my head when I close my eyes The only thing you can really do is move your tanks back when they rush you, but they will catch up with you quite quickly. And this micro is all well and good, but you can't be everywhere at the same time. There seems to be a thing with Manti as well, I notice that I always seem to be on the back foot against a Cybran player as they always have more Manti than I have tanks. It's as though the Manti build time is 10 seconds instead of 13, but I know it's 13 seconds but it seems shorter. Another thing with Manti is that they build up a critical mass very quickly due to their speed, in the early game all the Cybran player has to do is press control+Z and then because the Manti are so fast they will group together into a big swarm very early on. I think the answer as an Aeon is to play a more defensive game and focus on defending your expansions instead of trying to destroy the enemy's expansions and then gradually push the enemy back as you expand more and more.

Statistics: Posted by Flynn — 28 Jan 2013, 23:19

Re: Dealing with Mantis spam (as Aeon)

2013-01-28T20:41:31+02:00

Valki wrote:
I find dealing with Mantis spam quite hard.

I play Aeon and UEF, with UEF I sometimes manage to deal with them using bombers, but that strategy doesn't work with Aeon because their bombers don't have much AoE.

The Mantis seems to be the best T1 land unit, it can dodge artillery, fires fast enough to deal with assault bots, and can also eat through tanks.

How do you survive a Mantis Spam?

Aeon bombers have more AOE than UEF ones.

Statistics: Posted by pip — 28 Jan 2013, 20:41

Re: Dealing with Mantis spam (as Aeon)

2013-01-28T20:15:50+02:00

With Aeon play even more cautious and kite more. Mantis are fast!

Disadvantages of mantis to take advantage of:
Slow turret move speed - if you go past them they take a while to turn to aim
Weak against PD
Bad against relief/bumpy land

You could also try chucking a couple more arty in and using their range/punishing him if he stays still.

Statistics: Posted by ZaphodX — 28 Jan 2013, 20:15

Re: Dealing with Mantis spam (as Aeon)

2013-01-28T19:59:15+02:00

Tankspam?

Statistics: Posted by ColonelSheppard — 28 Jan 2013, 19:59

Dealing with Mantis spam (as Aeon)

2013-01-28T19:44:23+02:00

I find dealing with Mantis spam quite hard.

I play Aeon and UEF, with UEF I sometimes manage to deal with them using bombers, but that strategy doesn't work with Aeon because their bombers don't have much AoE.

The Mantis seems to be the best T1 land unit, it can dodge artillery, fires fast enough to deal with assault bots, and can also eat through tanks.

How do you survive a Mantis Spam?

Statistics: Posted by Valki — 28 Jan 2013, 19:44