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Re: is aeon t2 even worth it?

2013-05-10T14:59:16+02:00

Here is Zock playing Aeon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xefop_Xxe8s

He just decided not to build any units

Statistics: Posted by Cantor — 10 May 2013, 14:59

Re: is aeon t2 even worth it?

2013-05-10T13:42:28+02:00

I think this was - always has been a problem with the T2 heavy tanks. Only now am I seeing Pillars appearing on the field, they seem to have finally got the balance right for them, but Im still not seeing Obsidians or Rhinos. Infact I'm seeing Wagners being built quite often on pure land maps, but still almost never Rhinos. Anyone know off the top of their heads, the relative buffs that the 3 heavy T2 tanks have received?
I think there is truth to your observations about Obsidian being a specialist T2 counter that isn't efficient compared to T3. The Rhino's main problem I think is that its weapon is often blocked by terrain, maybe making the turret higher could help with that. Both problems are compounded by the fact that T2 is often the smallest tech stage window in the game, and its almost never not overlapping with another Tech.

Statistics: Posted by Crayfish — 10 May 2013, 13:42

Re: is aeon t2 even worth it?

2013-05-10T10:40:58+02:00

I like it

Statistics: Posted by snuffles — 10 May 2013, 10:40

Re: is aeon t2 even worth it?

2013-05-10T09:18:34+02:00

Voodoo wrote:
Anyone tried aeon t2 land in an engy redesign game so far?

Zock has, and it's not pretty.

Statistics: Posted by pip — 10 May 2013, 09:18

Re: is aeon t2 even worth it?

2013-05-10T09:12:55+02:00

Anyone tried aeon t2 land in an engy redesign game so far?

Statistics: Posted by Voodoo — 10 May 2013, 09:12

Re: is aeon t2 even worth it?

2013-05-09T21:36:00+02:00

Need I mention energy redesign?
Engineer redesign has massive t2 army fight with little t1, so the obsidian is way better, and in my opinion way overpowered against t2 in a t2 vs t2 situation.

Statistics: Posted by Supreme321 — 09 May 2013, 21:36

Re: is aeon t2 even worth it?

2013-05-09T21:02:51+02:00

The Obsidian is great against T1 land spam, it 1 shot kills pretty much all T1, but the overkill isn't that bad that there is too much wasted dps. The only reason to get the Blaze over Obsidian for Aeon IMO is the fact that the Blaze hovers and can easily cross water. Otherwise, I would only build Obsidians for T2 land fights.

Statistics: Posted by Pathogenic — 09 May 2013, 21:02

Re: is aeon t2 even worth it?

2013-04-26T15:31:24+02:00

again. its not about supporting units like the shield. every faction has some sort of them.
And getting t2 to throw some obsidians in... thats not really worth it.
2 Obsidians cost as much as a single harbinger and a harbinger is as effective as 6 obsidians in my opinion.
and getting t2 just for shields and a few obsidians is not worth it in my opinion anyways. if you get t2 you should also have the advantage of getting some strong battle power in your army. Excpet if it is a large map a t2 upgrade wont be worth it just for shields.
Thats why i prefer going t3. You have the shields and some battle power for less mass cost.
The only time when i find aeon t2 useful is if you are fighting against an enemy com who has gun upgrade for example and he has no supporting units anymore but neither have.
Obsidians are a great unit to pull down an ACUs health very quickly. but if the acu starts to run away and gets some supportive units your obsidians have no change of getting hits on the commander.

Statistics: Posted by Golol — 26 Apr 2013, 15:31

Re: is aeon t2 even worth it?

2013-04-26T01:02:10+02:00

I used to think like you, but really t2 aeon is great if take advantages of their strengths. This means shields, t2 aeon shields are the best t2 mobile shields and like zaphod said they hover so they have a little under 4k health, add that to the auroras health (if you micro) and you have a deadly force. Throw in a few obsidians to deal with the occasional t2, I don't approve of blazes because of their inefficiency but they are great for taking out spam.

Statistics: Posted by Aulex — 26 Apr 2013, 01:02

Re: is aeon t2 even worth it?

2013-04-25T20:05:45+02:00

i just dont like that there only seem to be roughly 2 effective ways to play aeon land.
auroras or harbingers.
a unit doesnt need to be op so it is useful.

Statistics: Posted by Golol — 25 Apr 2013, 20:05

Re: is aeon t2 even worth it?

2013-04-25T19:53:16+02:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIKHHrrY ... l0&index=9
not every unit can be OP, get over it

Statistics: Posted by ColonelSheppard — 25 Apr 2013, 19:53

Re: is aeon t2 even worth it?

2013-04-25T19:08:46+02:00

nah. the blaze is "not a bad t1 killer" because theres nothing else that can kill t1.
the blaze doesnt even pay off his cost. it's just crap. the obsidian is a good t2 killer but you will barely need that and it's short range makes it easily out-kitable.
And flak and shields was not the main topic of this thread. I think the blaze should just be split in a USEFUL counter t1 unit and a USEFUL amphibious tank...
It's kinda boring when there are not many possibilities except spam or heavy tech (t3). I used to go for t2 together with my spam for a long time but although i won some games i realized thats not effective.
why does the blaze even cost 220hp? its worth than any other t2 tank but costs more than the pillar or rhino. thats just because it can hover. take that away and instead reduce cost/ increase power and you finally have a good tank

Statistics: Posted by Golol — 25 Apr 2013, 19:08

Re: is aeon t2 even worth it?

2013-04-25T19:07:10+02:00

ToejamS wrote:
Lets not forget how useful flack and shields are on water maps. IMBA!!

This is so true; the mobile shields do allow your units much greater survivability with a bit of micro; and the flak allows you to remove torpedo bombers easily (and since both units hover they can't be targeted by torpers).
People who say Aeon navy is up just aren't using Aeon's hover units right.

Edit because I can't spell.

Statistics: Posted by Gorton — 25 Apr 2013, 19:07

Re: is aeon t2 even worth it?

2013-04-25T18:59:31+02:00

Lets not forget how useful flack and shields are on water maps. IMBA!! The blaze is not a bad t1 killer and the obsidian a good t2 killer. Used in conjunction with shields, they are very solid units. I think the addition of a faster bot like unit would make Aeon totally, over the top, impossibly IMBA.

Statistics: Posted by ToejamS — 25 Apr 2013, 18:59

Re: is aeon t2 even worth it?

2013-04-25T17:56:03+02:00

For the flak there is not much difference. Between UEF and Aeon mob shields, the Aeon one hovers and I believe has more shield points (about 1000 more) than the UEF.
(Aeon 5000 shield UEF 4000 shield? I think? Horrible feeling I am wrong here, someone correct me)
Also the UEF has slightly more hp but that doesn't really matter.
Aeon costs slight bit more energy a sec to run

Statistics: Posted by Gorton — 25 Apr 2013, 17:56