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Re: Hi i'm new and got a lot of questions

2015-02-01T10:02:39+02:00

da_monstr wrote:
The main issue with laptops is not that their CPUs are not capable of running SupCom, they can even do it in 4v4 games. The problem arises when the game goes on for a while and the CPU starts thermal throttling as it reaches a certain temperature.

Choose a CPU with low power consumption and this tends to be less of a problem.

Statistics: Posted by Resin_Smoker — 01 Feb 2015, 10:02

Re: Hi i'm new and got a lot of questions

2015-01-31T16:04:57+02:00

Depends what you want to run, 10km maps even with 12 players is no problem for my asus s56c with I5 3317u, obvioulsy not good enough for setons, but everything else runs perfectly

Statistics: Posted by speed2 — 31 Jan 2015, 16:04

Re: Hi i'm new and got a lot of questions

2015-01-31T15:56:47+02:00

The main issue with laptops is not that their CPUs are not capable of running SupCom, they can even do it in 4v4 games. The problem arises when the game goes on for a while and the CPU starts thermal throttling as it reaches a certain temperature.

Statistics: Posted by da_monstr — 31 Jan 2015, 15:56

Re: Hi i'm new and got a lot of questions

2015-01-31T15:38:31+02:00

Don't worry, any laptop you can buy these days can run supcom. Perhaps not those games where you have thousands of units, but you'll certainly be able to play 1v1 and you'll be able to play most 4v4's just fine. The only things you may have trouble with are setons, the coop campaign (because there are millions of units there), or some scripted defense maps where tons of units are spawned. If it's a reasonably good laptop you can even play those. I play on a laptop too, and in a game with 8 players I am almost never the slowest, but also almost never the fastest. For slowing the game down only the slowest matters anyway. So if you are buying a new laptop you probably won't be the slowest either and it will be fine. The game does run a lot smoother on your end if you have a better CPU and graphics card though.

Statistics: Posted by Vee — 31 Jan 2015, 15:38

Re: Hi i'm new and got a lot of questions

2015-01-31T11:36:15+02:00

unknownn wrote:
I need the laptop for school/work, but that's why I ask you guys if it's possible to play supcom on a laptop.
But thanks for all the feedback. If i had the chance i would go for a desktop too.

Yes, but as with every mobile system there are trade offs to be made for having a laptop. So long as you understand this and are willing to pay for it there shouldn't be a problem.

Please read my prior posts for details.

Resin

Statistics: Posted by Resin_Smoker — 31 Jan 2015, 11:36

Re: Hi i'm new and got a lot of questions

2015-01-30T14:36:29+02:00

I need the laptop for school/work, but that's why I ask you guys if it's possible to play supcom on a laptop.
But thanks for all the feedback. If i had the chance i would go for a desktop too.

Statistics: Posted by unknownn — 30 Jan 2015, 14:36

Re: Hi i'm new and got a lot of questions

2015-01-29T21:05:52+02:00

i play setons on my $700 laptop (student discount obviously), it's normally like 1200 i think

Statistics: Posted by Aulex — 29 Jan 2015, 21:05

Re: Hi i'm new and got a lot of questions

2015-01-29T18:10:31+02:00

My opinion is the same, put together a decent desktop and you'll love yourself more for it - Unless you have crazy money to spend on a crazy laptop XD.

Statistics: Posted by VoiceofReason — 29 Jan 2015, 18:10

Re: Hi i'm new and got a lot of questions

2015-01-27T23:35:09+02:00

_VODKA_ wrote:
Unless you have good reasons to get a laptop, such as mobility for your work, don't get one. It's slow and expensive, the screen is small and awkward and you lose the ability to overclock (cpu hungry games like supcom love overclocks). If it's for gaming simply get a small form factor desktop with an i5 4690k, 500GB SSD and a nice monitor. But I guess this goes without saying.

There are those that like it just for the convenience of being portable. However I do tend to agree that a full blow PC is superior in every way.

Resin

Statistics: Posted by Resin_Smoker — 27 Jan 2015, 23:35

Re: Hi i'm new and got a lot of questions

2015-01-27T13:04:47+02:00

Unless you have good reasons to get a laptop, such as mobility for your work, don't get one. It's slow and expensive, the screen is small and awkward and you lose the ability to overclock (cpu hungry games like supcom love overclocks). If it's for gaming simply get a small form factor desktop with an i5 4690k, 500GB SSD and a nice monitor. But I guess this goes without saying.

Statistics: Posted by Col_Walter_Kurtz — 27 Jan 2015, 13:04

Re: Hi i'm new and got a lot of questions

2015-01-25T19:41:19+02:00

The U430 would be a much better laptop for gaming.

I5 series processors are dual core, while i7's are quad.

However the single biggest factor for good FAF performance appears to be single core speed. Apparently FA doesn't use more than two cores to their fullest potential. What core you choose will depend on what you intent to use the laptop for beyond FAF ?

I'd get the U430, I7-4510U if cost isn't an issue. Besides, this processor uses half the power of the 4558U, while costing much less for about the same performance.

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-4 ... e-i7-4510U

8Gb ram

256Gb SSD

Here is the spec on the video card: http://gpuboss.com/graphics-card/GeForce-GT-730M
This card pumps out 33 watts of heat when running fullout.

Resin

Statistics: Posted by Resin_Smoker — 25 Jan 2015, 19:41

Re: Hi i'm new and got a lot of questions

2015-01-25T19:27:31+02:00

Softly wrote:
I played for 2 years on integrated graphics no problem.

This really depends on his intended use...
If this is primarily going to be a gaming laptop then a dedicated card is the way to go.

Resin

Statistics: Posted by Resin_Smoker — 25 Jan 2015, 19:27

Re: Hi i'm new and got a lot of questions

2015-01-25T15:49:21+02:00

I played for 2 years on integrated graphics no problem.

Statistics: Posted by Softly — 25 Jan 2015, 15:49

Re: Hi i'm new and got a lot of questions

2015-01-25T15:13:36+02:00

enovo u330 touch

Looks like it's not going to be a good system for you for two reasons.

1) INTERGRATED graphics

2) Windows 8, completely sucks balls. Stay with windows 7 or get a windows 7 OS from a third party to replace the one installed by the manufacturer.

Resin

Statistics: Posted by Resin_Smoker — 25 Jan 2015, 15:13

Re: Hi i'm new and got a lot of questions

2015-01-25T14:56:16+02:00

unknownn wrote:
First of all thx for the answers.
Secondly, the laptop i'm probably gonna buy is a lenovo u330 touch.
So do you guys think when you look at it's stats that it can run supcom?
Just regular games (I've never really liked games on seton's)
Unknownn

As for the laptop question here are a few points to consider...

Do not get a laptop with INTERGRATED graphics as this implies that the CPU and on board memory is being used to run your display. Obviously this will kill your CPU performance and eat up a ton of your precious memory that could of been better used to run your applications. Instead look for a dedicated video processor and one where the overall wattage isn't so high that your laptop can be used as a space heater.

Hard drive or SSD,This should be a no brainer as SSD's are not only a shit ton faster (around 8- 20 second boot times are common) but they use far less power. This is important if you'd like to get the most out of your battery and help keep your laptop cooler.

Memory by default most systems ship with at least 4 Gb's. Now while this is "ok" it's a bit anemic for gaming so I'd suggest having 6-8 Gb's. Anymore than this is both a waste of money and will create more heat for your laptop to dissipate.

CPU's are important but don't buy off on all the hype. I-5, I-7 ect... Look up the CPU spec's as well as the reliability of a manufactures build with said processor. I say this because a great process will run like crap if the manufacture uses substandard components to build the main board.

Heat is your enemy! No matter how fast your laptop, it's still just a laptop. Now as such your system stability and longevity will be hugely impacted by how much heat is created during the long hours of play it will be subjected to. Base your CPU and Video selections off of what information you can easily get online about their required wattage.

Bloat ware, is almost a given with any laptop you but now days. I night recommend slicking the laptop and installing a new OS using a disk that was not provided by the laptops manufacturer. Reason is that all this extra software remains on your system even after you though you've deleted it. This bloat wares only job is spy on you and as such runs in the background, eating up your system resources and network bandwidth in the process.

Resin

Statistics: Posted by Resin_Smoker — 25 Jan 2015, 14:56