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Re: Salem's 'walk on land' button

2016-10-16T23:39:46+02:00

indeed. the closest thing to feasibility i can think of atm is to actually replace the salem with an identical unit with different motiontypes on toggle. pretty absurd if you ask me.

maybe there's a way to change its motiontype, in which case we hit a small gold mine but i haven't found one yet.

Statistics: Posted by Exotic_Retard — 16 Oct 2016, 23:39

Re: Salem's 'walk on land' button

2016-10-16T23:30:32+02:00

Can't be done. While the trigger for the transformation and speed change is all lua (And therefore accessible), and we could have a toggle to prevent that, there's nothing we can do on the fly to stop it being able to go onto the land. It just wouldn't go to walking mode.

Statistics: Posted by IceDreamer — 16 Oct 2016, 23:30

Re: Salem's 'walk on land' button

2016-10-15T06:29:33+02:00

washy explained the issue to zock better than petric and me could, zock proposed it to the team and the aeon ghetto fix got implemented in the current FAF beta

this is more about removing inconsistent handling across factions for a more intuitive gameplay experience than a "balance problem"

sankyu zock & team

here is a demonstration of the issue (finally) to anyone who cares:

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taking back what i said above; hope you cybran fanboys also get what you want (if it's possible to implement)

Statistics: Posted by Heaven — 15 Oct 2016, 06:29

Re: Salem's 'walk on land' button

2016-07-17T07:09:54+02:00

@Heaven

thanks a lot for explaining this.

Statistics: Posted by Uveso — 17 Jul 2016, 07:09

Re: Salem's 'walk on land' button

2016-07-17T03:02:32+02:00

Uveso wrote:
@Nepty
What has the transporter to do with the Salem walk on land problem ?

If it's a feature of the Illuminate t2 ghetto to be a pain in the ass to use for ACU snipes, then it's also a feature of the Salem to be a pain in the ass to use in narrow water passages. If one cannot be addressed because it taps into faction balance, the same applies to the other. Anything else would be favoritism.

Statistics: Posted by Heaven — 17 Jul 2016, 03:02

Re: Salem's 'walk on land' button

2016-07-05T13:24:34+02:00

I was the one who suggested it and cybran is not even my main faction just thought it would be useful. Can't be done lua side therefore discussion is terminated, stop crying.

Statistics: Posted by BenDover — 05 Jul 2016, 13:24

Re: Salem's 'walk on land' button

2016-07-05T12:36:16+02:00

Uveso wrote:
@Nepty

Thanks for explaining, but this was obviously and not my question...

What has the transporter to do with the Salem walk on land problem ?
I was explaining, its technican not possible to detect the layerchange before it happens.
It has nothing to do with any fanboy thing. I just cant do it.

So i dont understand Heavens reply. Does he think "i" just don't want it ? because i am a cybran fanboy ?
That was the question, Nepty.

I explained exactly what he meant. There's nothing more for me to say unfortunately. I don't wanna get into any trouble, so I decline to post any further. Respectively...

Statistics: Posted by Nepty — 05 Jul 2016, 12:36

Re: Salem's 'walk on land' button

2016-07-05T09:46:56+02:00

@Nepty

Thanks for explaining, but this was obviously and not my question...

What has the transporter to do with the Salem walk on land problem ?
I was explaining, its technican not possible to detect the layerchange before it happens.
It has nothing to do with any fanboy thing. I just cant do it.

So i dont understand Heavens reply. Does he think "i" just don't want it ? because i am a cybran fanboy ?
That was the question, Nepty.

Statistics: Posted by Uveso — 05 Jul 2016, 09:46

Re: Salem's 'walk on land' button

2016-07-05T08:55:26+02:00

It's a perfectly fine suggestion. No real impact on balance, just removes some annoying behaviours. Add it to the list.

/thread?

Statistics: Posted by Hawkei — 05 Jul 2016, 08:55

Re: Salem's 'walk on land' button

2016-07-02T11:35:35+02:00

Nepty wrote:
Uveso wrote:Well, i am sorry, but i dont get it.
What do you mean with your last Post, Heaven ?

Obviously almost everything gets done for Cybran. This is what happens when a Cybran fanboy is in charge of balancing. Heaven asked for a very simple aeon T2 transport modification, and it was rejected. I can almost guarantee if it was cybran things would have been different. People just choose to pretend it doesn't happen... It's incredibly obvious.

Anyway, good luck getting the 'walk on land' button. I'm sure the 'fans' will do whatever it takes to make it a reality. Just a matter of time.

omg

Statistics: Posted by ZeRen — 02 Jul 2016, 11:35

Re: Salem's 'walk on land' button

2016-07-02T08:13:55+02:00

Uveso wrote:
Well, i am sorry, but i dont get it.
What do you mean with your last Post, Heaven ?

Obviously almost everything gets done for Cybran. This is what happens when a Cybran fanboy is in charge of balancing. Heaven asked for a very simple aeon T2 transport modification, and it was rejected. I can almost guarantee if it was cybran things would have been different. People just choose to pretend it doesn't happen... It's incredibly obvious.

Anyway, good luck getting the 'walk on land' button. I'm sure the 'fans' will do whatever it takes to make it a reality. Just a matter of time.

Statistics: Posted by Nepty — 02 Jul 2016, 08:13

Re: Salem's 'walk on land' button

2016-06-21T06:20:05+02:00

Well, i am sorry, but i dont get it.
What do you mean with your last Post, Heaven ?

Statistics: Posted by Uveso — 21 Jun 2016, 06:20

Re: Salem's 'walk on land' button

2016-06-20T23:27:29+02:00

You see, the issue taps into faction diversity/balance.
If you get any answer other than this,

the Cybran fanboyism in here needs some serious cleansing!

Statistics: Posted by Heaven — 20 Jun 2016, 23:27

Re: Salem's 'walk on land' button

2016-06-01T18:26:42+02:00

I already tried to fix this, but failed.
Changing the layer of an unit is executed inside SupremeCommander.exe. We dont have direct access to it from lua side.
Maybe we can use some glitches like respawning the unit with new movement-layer values.

But for now, we can't change the "walk on land" behavior. (at least, i can't)

See GitHub:
https://github.com/FAForever/fa/issues/1328

Statistics: Posted by Uveso — 01 Jun 2016, 18:26

Re: Salem's 'walk on land' button

2016-06-01T18:00:56+02:00

This may be one of the best requested fixes in a long time...

Hopefully it gets implemented in next year's patch

Statistics: Posted by Morax — 01 Jun 2016, 18:00