Forged Alliance Forever Forged Alliance Forever Forums 2012-09-25T15:35:01+02:00 /feed.php?f=42&t=1659 2012-09-25T15:35:01+02:00 2012-09-25T15:35:01+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=1659&p=20892#p20892 <![CDATA[Re: Invasion of the Smurfs]]>
Stop publicly trashing each other. If you have proof of someone "smurfing" then send a forum PM to the Moderators group and we'll take care of it. More likely, as seems to be in this case, no one was doing anything wrong.

Statistics: Posted by uberge3k — 25 Sep 2012, 15:35


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2012-09-25T14:46:50+02:00 2012-09-25T14:46:50+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=1659&p=20886#p20886 <![CDATA[Re: Invasion of the Smurfs]]>
DilliDalli wrote:
If you care so little about the rating system then don't look at it, we're not forcing you to.

I know, I used not to look. I got corrupted by Galactic :evil: .

Statistics: Posted by -_V_- — 25 Sep 2012, 14:46


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2012-09-25T14:42:16+02:00 2012-09-25T14:42:16+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=1659&p=20885#p20885 <![CDATA[Re: Invasion of the Smurfs]]>
-_V_- wrote:
and lost overall 70 points.


If you care so little about the rating system then don't look at it, we're not forcing you to.

-_V_- wrote:
The cases where those players including myself refuse to play random is because players level is too different considering the spots they could end in. And you know this perfectly well.


Then try expanding your horizons to other maps?

Maybe there aren't "rising setons stars" but I really don't see why we should judge the entirety of the FA community based on quality at one map.

Statistics: Posted by Softly — 25 Sep 2012, 14:42


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2012-09-25T14:21:37+02:00 2012-09-25T14:21:37+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=1659&p=20884#p20884 <![CDATA[Re: Invasion of the Smurfs]]>
Casimus wrote:
She won't play good players unless she is in a superior team though so really hard to put to the test now.

How would you know ? You wouldn't be allowed to play in those games. I am puzzled!


5 mins ago, another example : Andy + Glad + Freshy + 1 random versus me and 2 average and a random beginner.
I am sure this was stacked my way again, right ? ;)

Statistics: Posted by -_V_- — 25 Sep 2012, 14:21


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2012-09-25T14:20:24+02:00 2012-09-25T14:20:24+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=1659&p=20883#p20883 <![CDATA[Re: Invasion of the Smurfs]]>
Casimus wrote:
I'm sorry V but your argument that others should rise to the challenge is bullshit as you leave the lobby as soon as its even close to not being stacked in your favor.

See you're confusing not wanting to play with players that >>I<< consider incapable with wanting to stack. When I am about to play some serious quality players, I want to be able to focus on my opponent without having in mind constantly that I will have to babysit my teammate. See if I play with galac, one of the HBE, tnuk or this type of players, I know I don't have to look at their side for a while cause they know what to do and when, but most importantly what NOT to do. Then they can lose or win, it's just the game. I don't know, maybe the difference is too subtle.
But it's alright. I have no intention of making you see the truth, I don't care much.

The discussion is not about or you, but about smurfing in general. It's true that I may have turned my reply into something personal because :
- I gave reasons why I would want to not reveal my identity, from my PERSONAL experience and the shit I had to deal with
- I reminded that you smurfed and for quite some time, and that what you actually say is bad, you do it , or did it yourself. So I find this entertaining ;)
I should refrain myself from doing this here. People already know the hypocrisies lying around anyway.


I agree people should play players better than them and we all do it, but the fact is way back when I avoided your lobby because it was just a pointless bash every game, I know you like that right??

Maybe you're not just up to this kind of games ? I wonder why.
FYI, I played 4 games in 2 days. I lost 3, and lost overall 70 points. How is that for stacking ? :lol:


I play a range of games now, sometimes with noobs and I try to help them learn others with better players later on the day/evening. diversity is the key, I can accept being bashed if it is my choice to take on a challenge, but that is not the issue here.

Overall, trust me I've been bashed way way more times than you ever did.

For the record, you were a much better guy to play with or against when you were beginner and was really interested in learning. Remember we used to play often together, and even when you fucked it up in my team, there was no real harsh feeling, maybe some words, but no biggie.
Now that you got a bit better, you grew up a too big ego (and I know my share for ego haha) for your skills and can't handle defeat very well. And coincidentally, this is close to when you stopped improving. I'm very sad of this cause having new players to challenge is really really interesting. According to me, THAT is what makes the game live on, not some changes about the units. Renewing challenges, that's the deal baby yeah :mrgreen:
Game wise, I looked up to the guys like dim, lappen, white, and a lot others who left. Now I can definitely compete with them. I let you think a bit about that when you chill off ;)

Anyway, WE are not the subject here, moving on ?


Smurfing is for those that want to deceive


OR running away from specific players, or certain quality of players because this category just became too annoying to play with, and i'm talking about the attitude in lobby here, not in game, nor am I talking about level.

OR also to start a game in a few mins instead of having a usual political G8 to balance the game that usually takes a long time.

I think I can say I had my share of games from the GPGnet times, and for YEARS, people joined, x in and then played. Now , and since the end of GPGnet, you know that you will have to fill the game, then you know the balance talk will occur like a mandatory thing. I am sorry but this bores me off so much. This is yet another reason for one player to want to hide the identity.

Stop playing the victim, crying about those ugly fat smurfs of great players who are there only to abuse noobs. Well sorry but that ain't true.


in the beginning of FAF it wasn't really a problem a few people with a second account to chill was fine, and people accepted that hell I even had one back in the GPG days as you know.

What I read here, is, when you judged it was alright, it was ok for people , you included(the author of this very topic) to do it. But then you got annoyed too many times ,'cause you got some challenge from someone you expected to be noob.
So you decided to ring the bell, and cry to the world, because you had enough. Well and I thought I was the one with a huge ego :lol:


As for balance, i'm for random all the way makes the game more exciting not knowing what position you will be and who you will play, ive always really enjoyed it.

Well have you really seen so many good players who are not keen on random ? I haven't.
The cases where those players including myself refuse to play random is because players level is too different considering the spots they could end in. And you know this perfectly well.

I would really much like to play random most of the time. If only players were capable of playing our map well enough and on any spots.

If we are to speak of the setons junkies. There is clearly a difference of level between how it used to be and the situation on FAF. We really had some rising stars on GPGnet, people who leveled up so fast it was scary, but THRILLING and CHALLENGING.

Here , when was the last time you saw anyone do that ? I didn't play from the beginning to this game, but in 4 years now, I think I am able to tell the difference.

2 big changes happened in this time frame :

- new changing balance
- the word "stacked"/"balance" are more used than ever. How come I didn't know this word stacked for like my first 3 years of FA ? Just a thought ...

I really don't expect smurfing to be allowed, I know it won't. People don't do that to abuse beginners.

Statistics: Posted by -_V_- — 25 Sep 2012, 14:20


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2012-09-25T12:56:59+02:00 2012-09-25T12:56:59+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=1659&p=20882#p20882 <![CDATA[Re: Invasion of the Smurfs]]>
ShadowKnight wrote:
Is he really that good, or is it time a REALLY good player showed him who's boss? Oh, to have some of the old champions back...
SHE is one of the top players from the past, I wouldn't say she is the best anymore but can play all positions well.

She won't play good players unless she is in a superior team though so really hard to put to the test now.

Statistics: Posted by Casimus — 25 Sep 2012, 12:56


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2012-09-25T12:20:14+02:00 2012-09-25T12:20:14+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=1659&p=20879#p20879 <![CDATA[Re: Invasion of the Smurfs]]> Statistics: Posted by IceDreamer — 25 Sep 2012, 12:20


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2012-09-25T01:09:08+02:00 2012-09-25T01:09:08+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=1659&p=20871#p20871 <![CDATA[Re: Invasion of the Smurfs]]> Smurfing is against the rules. Here is a solution: set up a smurf account and impose a handicap on yourself.
(just keep 10% of your mass extractors at t1, that should allow you to loose more often to keep the rating in a range where us little people will like you again).

Statistics: Posted by rootbeer23 — 25 Sep 2012, 01:09


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2012-09-24T17:12:12+02:00 2012-09-24T17:12:12+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=1659&p=20849#p20849 <![CDATA[Re: Invasion of the Smurfs]]>
if it's important for you to only let game count which you think you can win (what will lead in overrating you i guess) you can turn the ranking easily out by setting the gamespeed to adjustable

Statistics: Posted by ColonelSheppard — 24 Sep 2012, 17:12


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2012-09-24T17:00:45+02:00 2012-09-24T17:00:45+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=1659&p=20847#p20847 <![CDATA[Re: Invasion of the Smurfs]]>
I agree people should play players better than them and we all do it, but the fact is way back when I avoided your lobby because it was just a pointless bash every game, I know you like that right??

I play a range of games now, sometimes with noobs and I try to help them learn others with better players later on the day/evening. diversity is the key, I can accept being bashed if it is my choice to take on a challenge, but that is not the issue here.

Smurfing is for those that want to deceive, in the beginning of FAF it wasn't really a problem a few people with a second account to chill was fine, and people accepted that hell I even had one back in the GPG days as you know.

The problem was that it got out of control on FAF, I think Zep has already resolved this and I no longer see any problem now.

As for balance, im for random all the way makes the game more exciting not knowing what position you will be and who you will play, ive always really enjoyed it.

one thing to tag on to this discussion is a ranked and non ranked game option when you host a lobby, i think that would help rather than having to mess with the settings, just a suggestion what you guys think?

Statistics: Posted by Casimus — 24 Sep 2012, 17:00


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2012-09-24T16:55:58+02:00 2012-09-24T16:55:58+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=1659&p=20846#p20846 <![CDATA[Re: Invasion of the Smurfs]]>
DilliDalli wrote:
Then lets get rid of the rating system if balance discussions are such an issue for you all..

+1000000. Sadly it won't happen, I asked many many times already

Statistics: Posted by -_V_- — 24 Sep 2012, 16:55


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2012-09-24T16:07:20+02:00 2012-09-24T16:07:20+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=1659&p=20845#p20845 <![CDATA[Re: Invasion of the Smurfs]]>
FYI I don't think they're a big issue the problem comes when people stop balancing and start moaning. The main culprits I find are the better players wanting to have their dream team around them and being told actually, the other people in the game aren't interested in a bash.

Statistics: Posted by Softly — 24 Sep 2012, 16:07


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2012-09-24T16:02:56+02:00 2012-09-24T16:02:56+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=1659&p=20844#p20844 <![CDATA[Re: Invasion of the Smurfs]]>
But , you voodoo, you decided you had enough patience and time to tutor players. That's great. I don't just want to do that in game over and over and over. That's all. Again, from to time it's OK. When it's each game, it gets frustrating and annoying

Statistics: Posted by -_V_- — 24 Sep 2012, 16:02


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2012-09-24T15:58:40+02:00 2012-09-24T15:58:40+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=1659&p=20843#p20843 <![CDATA[Re: Invasion of the Smurfs]]> Statistics: Posted by Voodoo — 24 Sep 2012, 15:58


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2012-09-24T15:34:34+02:00 2012-09-24T15:34:34+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=1659&p=20842#p20842 <![CDATA[Re: Invasion of the Smurfs]]> Statistics: Posted by -_V_- — 24 Sep 2012, 15:34


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