Forged Alliance Forever

Re: Maps more like other planets

2014-02-19T06:25:55+02:00

Of course map itself is more like a background for gameplay. What I'm saying is that variety in general feel of the map is good. And not even considering urban play - see the images posted by topic's author? Real jungle/swamp - didn't see any in SupCom, Real volcanic planet - didn't see any in SupCom. And those are concepts from the game already few years older then SupCom itself (not to mention beautiful metalic planets that were in TA)...

Variety don't necessarily mean "packing a lot of objects till map is unreadable". It's more of a "different tilesets to choose from. And in this matter I totally agree that "Maps more like other planets" is the thing that would be nice to have

Statistics: Posted by necxelos — 19 Feb 2014, 06:25

Re: Maps more like other planets

2014-02-18T22:21:53+02:00

1. Nothing of that entire city is playable, and although it's an addition to the map, maps like The dark heart or Williamson's Bridge are better looking in general imo. If your preference is a map with a city, then yes, SupCom1 and FA are not going to be satisfactory. Don't forget though, that this is a 6+ year old game with a specific engine for it. The game wasn't designed for such background things and if you want a real big city for the game, then you're going to have to make it yourself.

Something else: Try the map "Loki". A map with better design than virtually anything else, and it has a pretty good city. In terms of superior design, there's also the map "[url="http://forums.gaspowered.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=31709"]Forest Planet FA[/url]" (I think searching for Forest planet is good enough in the FAF vault)

2. No, varied never equals better by definition. There are some eccentric or exotic maps in the vault, such as Aparture Laboratories, but they don't add to the general quality of the game. Also, if you're going to make a very varied map, you're going to end up with a weird mess 90% of the time. Adding variation means adding complexity and that never means that you add quality. It could add quality, but you can never guarantee it.

Statistics: Posted by Plasma_Wolf — 18 Feb 2014, 22:21

Re: Maps more like other planets

2014-02-18T18:18:00+02:00

http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2 ... 09_Map.jpg

Show me the map witch such quality and details then...
Because as of now I can't find any map that isn't completely empty. No settlements, no small towns no nothing...

P.S. Varied = Better, by the very definition. Take it from the player that plays MOBA games (same map over and over again... "puke" ...it's a nightmare).

Statistics: Posted by necxelos — 18 Feb 2014, 18:18

Re: Maps more like other planets

2014-02-18T18:04:06+02:00

Additional textures can be added, but most players won't bother with it because there are plenty of natural stock textures. These textures are as good looking as the ones in supcom2 btw.

Anyway, there are no real urban textures and if you're going to add a true urban environment, the problem is not necessarily the lack of urban textures, but the lack of urban structures.

The supcom2 maps may be more varied, but I don't think they look better.

Statistics: Posted by Plasma_Wolf — 18 Feb 2014, 18:04

Re: Maps more like other planets

2014-02-18T05:17:44+02:00

Are there actually any maps that are more unique at all? It came to me after downloading some "city" map which looks terrible. Shape of the terrain is ok but textures are from normal land (sand, rocks, grass, etc.). Or are maps restricted to official tilesets and You can't add completely new types of terrain?

For the record all the maps I've seen so far are either:
- Sand (yellow, orange, red),
- Rocks (brown, grey),
- Grass (light, dark),
- Snow,
- Something slimy-rocky witch green-black tint (minority - I've only seen 1 custom map like this and few official maps),

Not much of a variety to be honest. No matter how much different of a game SupCom2 is - his maps look much better and are far more varied...

Statistics: Posted by necxelos — 18 Feb 2014, 05:17

Re: Maps more like other planets

2014-02-17T18:31:15+02:00

necxelos wrote:
True for both. And absolutely no way to tell which one is the most recent version :/

but the clouds are not in the vault version

Statistics: Posted by Dragonfire — 17 Feb 2014, 18:31

Re: Maps more like other planets

2014-02-17T18:27:38+02:00

True for both. And absolutely no way to tell which one is the most recent version :/

Statistics: Posted by necxelos — 17 Feb 2014, 18:27

Re: Maps more like other planets

2014-02-17T18:01:39+02:00

ColonelSheppard wrote:
lost paradise

*Mezmerizing paradise

Statistics: Posted by D4E_Omit — 17 Feb 2014, 18:01

Re: Maps more like other planets

2014-02-17T17:32:01+02:00

Thanks.

It's most awesome and detailed map I ever seen official or custom

If all maps were like this we'd have a true NEXT GENERATION here

Statistics: Posted by necxelos — 17 Feb 2014, 17:32

Re: Maps more like other planets

2014-02-17T16:02:35+02:00

lost paradise

Statistics: Posted by ColonelSheppard — 17 Feb 2014, 16:02

Re: Maps more like other planets

2014-02-17T15:15:56+02:00

Neojacques wrote:
Now playing new FX see again that it is possible to give more life alien to the maps, putting gives much or creating maps more realistic. In the map below we see clouds, it's a start, hopefully improve even more maps and have more animations in the future...

What is this map?? I want it NOOOOW!!

Statistics: Posted by necxelos — 17 Feb 2014, 15:15

Re: Maps more like other planets

2013-06-13T12:44:37+02:00

Another good thing we had and disappeared. In Vanilla had interface with world map image of a planet, always the same color map that we are and that was pretty cool.
Photo below:

Now the FA do not have any more edge, I do not know what it is to put in place, very strange, only changes color according faction...
Photo below:

If you could go back to what it was before. Would be excellent in the Galactic War, a suggestion is maybe in the future in FA Forever ...

I found a map that fits the type I was looking for:
Link download: http://www.strategyinformer.com/pc/supremecommanderforgedalliance/map/24904.html or Map Vault

Statistics: Posted by Neojacques — 13 Jun 2013, 12:44

Re: Maps more like other planets

2013-06-13T07:02:52+02:00

theres this one map i dont know how it excaclty was called. something with city.
it was a high textured and high detail city and i really felt like in the fa trailer.
its maybe not an alien planet but imo a good example for very good mapping and the possibilities for the map editor

Statistics: Posted by Golol — 13 Jun 2013, 07:02

Re: Maps more like other planets

2013-06-11T13:02:27+02:00

actually now that you say it: there is a map called "Winter Planet FA" which has some nice cloud/snwo/storm whatever it is exactly effects

aaand i just found that there are textures that do really look like floating lava

i think there was something about lightning before and somebody said that it would be difficult to have more than one lightsource (or impossible i dont remember anymore)
multiple lightsources would be cool when for example shots enlight then ground or units enlight dark maps like Vagra Pass

Statistics: Posted by ColonelSheppard — 11 Jun 2013, 13:02

Re: Civil and Maps more like other planets

2013-06-11T12:42:36+02:00

ColonelSheppard wrote:
SupCom engine supports creativity i see no reason why rain shouldnt be possible to be made work like some fake units, better question is what this would do with the performance

The source files actually support Things like Rain and even Snow.
Its a bit tricky to get it working and looking nice while fitting the entire map without having a shitload of impenetrable clouds all over the places.

I was working on that a while ago and got some nice Snow and Rain effects - infact it only where visible effects. I should have this stuff somewhere (I did that for a map, but especially as I never had a good idea for the layout, I somehow dropped the coin on that).

It would make things easyer if we could edit some files in one of the .scd archives (which actually should be doable - I hope?). I think multiple particles falling from the sky should be doable. Not sure if we get some lightning done. I think I'll take another look upon this

Edit: I found an old screenshot I made for light snow with thin clouds. (yes, it dont fit the map type, but hey, it gives a good contrast)
snow.jpg

Statistics: Posted by Koecher — 11 Jun 2013, 12:42