Forged Alliance Forever Forged Alliance Forever Forums 2014-02-19T11:28:49+02:00 /feed.php?f=42&t=4405 2014-02-19T11:28:49+02:00 2014-02-19T11:28:49+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=4405&p=65976#p65976 <![CDATA[Re: The Concept page !]]>
Ze_PilOt wrote:
We already have an unit database, what would be the advantages of that one?

The current one has some bugs in the dps computation on beam weapons, did you manage to solve these kind of issues?

Planned Advantages:
  • can be integrated into faf due to the backend being python
  • can also be used as a website due to the frontend being html/js
  • can display stats of all mods
  • if integrated into faf, will detect all installed mods and show stats for them
  • direct linking from chat/mod vault to units or (filter settings, e.g. all T2 units, all BO units) would be possible
  • intelligent (faceted) search / navigation
  • easy to build a mobile friendly version
  • better usability (I hope)
  • fully themeable
  • more functionality possible:
    • units building that unit / built by that unit
    • build calculator (how long do I take and how much m/e do I need /s if I build that unit with x t1 engies, x SCUs, etc)
    • graphs (e.g. range, dps visualization)
    • maybe even showing a rendering of the unit :)

I currently have a halfway working prototype of the UI, but it is far from being really usable or complete.
I will eventually open source the code but only when the architecture I have in mind is complete or if I decide I don't have the time to finish it so somebody else can continue.

I haven't yet started on dps calculations or other fancy things because I have to get the basics right first. I'll be looking for the beam dps bug when I get there.

Statistics: Posted by burnstreet — 19 Feb 2014, 11:28

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Dragonfire wrote:
Can you publish the code of the unit db?


If Raging squirrel give me/you the authorization, no problems.

Statistics: Posted by Ze_PilOt — 19 Feb 2014, 11:27

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@Nomad:
Did Brute51 asked you for the db code?
Nomad database is out of date and we have no direct access to it ...

Statistics: Posted by Dragonfire — 19 Feb 2014, 10:53

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For FAF, you can compare two units by checking the checkbox on units you want to compare.

It's not user friendly, but again, I would prefer improving on the existing code (fixing DPS of beam weapon, improving user interface to compare units, make the FAT thingy user friendly,...) instead of redoing something that already work.

About Nomads, it will be integrated in the unit DB when it's integrated into FAF. Until then, I guess it's up to the nomads team to propose their unit DB (they have one by the way).

You also have to realize that the current unit DB automatically feed the infos by reading FAF files on the server, so it's very easy to update.

Statistics: Posted by Ze_PilOt — 19 Feb 2014, 10:27

]]> 2014-02-19T09:56:23+02:00 2014-02-19T09:56:23+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=4405&p=65953#p65953 <![CDATA[Re: The Concept page !]]> https://bitbucket.org/Brute51/nomads/is ... t-database

The one from burnstreet looks very very nice and seem to be more userfriendly/dynamic ...
E.g. I habve no idea, how to compare units ...

Statistics: Posted by Dragonfire — 19 Feb 2014, 09:56

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The current one has some bugs in the dps computation on beam weapons, did you manage to solve these kind of issues?

Statistics: Posted by Ze_PilOt — 19 Feb 2014, 09:39

]]> 2014-02-18T18:24:07+02:00 2014-02-18T18:24:07+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=4405&p=65861#p65861 <![CDATA[Re: The Concept page !]]> It has to be to be included in FAF.

Statistics: Posted by burnstreet — 18 Feb 2014, 18:24

]]> 2014-02-18T18:18:12+02:00 2014-02-18T18:18:12+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=4405&p=65860#p65860 <![CDATA[Re: The Concept page !]]> bitbucket/github?

Statistics: Posted by Dragonfire — 18 Feb 2014, 18:18

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Python for the backend, HTML/JS for the frontend.

Statistics: Posted by burnstreet — 18 Feb 2014, 18:07

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burnstreet wrote:
I am working on a unit DB that - if Zep wants - can be integrated into the FAF Client and will be able to show infos for all installed mods.


What language(s) are you working in?

Statistics: Posted by nine2 — 18 Feb 2014, 17:41

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burnstreet wrote:
The prototype I have does already work with nomads featured mod units :)
The db will have an HTML frontend so when it's done there will also be a web version with same look and functionality.

Can you put it online as soon as possible? That would be great ...

Statistics: Posted by Dragonfire — 18 Feb 2014, 16:18

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The db will have an HTML frontend so when it's done there will also be a web version with same look and functionality.

Statistics: Posted by burnstreet — 18 Feb 2014, 16:10

]]> 2014-02-18T15:58:06+02:00 2014-02-18T15:58:06+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=4405&p=65840#p65840 <![CDATA[Re: The Concept page !]]>
burnstreet wrote:
I am working on a unit DB that - if Zep wants - can be integrated into the FAF Client and will be able to show infos for all installed mods.

Atm we search for a Unit DB for Nomads mod:
https://bitbucket.org/Brute51/nomads/is ... t-database

Maybe a good practice ;)

Statistics: Posted by Dragonfire — 18 Feb 2014, 15:58

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Image

this is a layout / functionality concept, please pay no attention to actual content, colors, images and design used.

I am still thinking about how to organize the information, all I am sure about until now is:
  • thematically related info will be in one box in the detail view
  • there may be additional info in the unit list, you may be able to select what is displayed there (e.g. dps, range) and how the list is sorted
  • you will probably be able to hide all but the title bar of boxes and filters
  • units and unit images in "produced by" and other boxes will get some tooltip with basic info

I am open for all kinds of suggestions, especially how to arrange all the information in the bps into boxes and how to make a compare view for multiple units other than just showing them side by side.

A somewhat simpler HTML prototype can be seen here: http://concept.burnstreet2.bplaced.net/

Statistics: Posted by burnstreet — 18 Feb 2014, 15:49

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if you do that i will be very grateful :)

Statistics: Posted by Exotic_Retard — 11 Dec 2013, 20:54

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