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Re: Score whitotu acu kill poin

2014-11-11T03:14:02+02:00

i guess the +130K score bump should be a simple vote then as there is no overwhelming
pro/contra.
https://github.com/FAForever/fa/issues/121

Statistics: Posted by rootbeer23 — 11 Nov 2014, 03:14

Re: Score whitotu acu kill poin

2014-11-10T13:08:02+02:00

Of course score is not correct information about gameplay, but this is very easy solution what can remove something what rape this inaccurate information, what is still some kind of information.

any score system cant manage all about gameplay only relevant is who win/lose, and for it we dont need see score. But when we have some mechanick what manage point, then it start be ussles after someone kill someone else, because all others point start be inaccurate.

Statistics: Posted by Ithilis_Quo — 10 Nov 2014, 13:08

Re: Score whitotu acu kill poin

2014-11-10T12:29:54+02:00

IMO score in most of the teamgames is totally irrelevant to the actual gameplay. You can have the highest score and still be the shittiest player in game. So I wouldnt really bother trying to change impact that acu kill has on it.

Statistics: Posted by speed2 — 10 Nov 2014, 12:29

Re: Score whitotu acu kill poin

2014-11-10T12:15:24+02:00

score on/off is not relevant here.

Statistics: Posted by rootbeer23 — 10 Nov 2014, 12:15

Re: Score whitotu acu kill poin

2014-11-10T10:11:21+02:00

Ithilis_Quo wrote:
I never play game with score, only if i dont recognice that is score on. I was the first one who was saying that score in game is unfair intel and would be good to remove it.

But for what is good have score for acu kill in game? You will know how many acu who kill. It is most important, but its separe thinks like build and kill units. And when it would be half, then first one would have fo example 5K score and killed would have 68K so it is same principe, score for acu is so hight so it rape all information from score.
Im mosly not talking about ingame score, but about after game statistic.

People turning off the score doesn't remove the 'need' to have an accurate score in-game for the people who want it on. Sometimes when I play with friends they want the score on and I don't like turning it into a snipe-fest (also because some of my friends don't know how to 'not get sniped' while others know how to snipe) because people want to get the highest score (which happens, so atm I want it turned off).

Statistics: Posted by Aurion — 10 Nov 2014, 10:11

Re: Score whitotu acu kill poin

2014-11-09T23:50:20+02:00

I never play game with score, only if i dont recognice that is score on. I was the first one who was saying that score in game is unfair intel and would be good to remove it.

But for what is good have score for acu kill in game? You will know how many acu who kill. It is most important, but its separe thinks like build and kill units. And when it would be half, then first one would have fo example 5K score and killed would have 68K so it is same principe, score for acu is so hight so it rape all information from score.
Im mosly not talking about ingame score, but about after game statistic.

Statistics: Posted by Ithilis_Quo — 09 Nov 2014, 23:50

Re: Score whitotu acu kill poin

2014-11-09T23:44:00+02:00

If I host a game I disable the score

Statistics: Posted by Dragonfire — 09 Nov 2014, 23:44

Re: Score whitotu acu kill poin

2014-11-09T22:31:12+02:00

Ithilis_Quo wrote:
But this point are wuite out of the normal poin ligue, because when you kill acu you got about 100 000 point when others have 1500 so for first kill you dont see how good ppl are because one is jump out. Can you imagine it only wiht sing near score with kill ?

I agree it could be reduced, but to be honest, I think in-game, scores should be hidden anyway, like in ladder games, as it doesn't make sense that you can see the score of your ennemies.

That said, maybe the point bonus could be reduced by half, but it has to remain significant, ACU dead = victory, it's like catching teh ball in quidditch :p
Ideally, in team games, the bonus points would be distributed among teammates in proportion of their contribution to the killing, don't know if that's possible though.

Statistics: Posted by Zoram — 09 Nov 2014, 22:31

Re: Score whitotu acu kill poin

2014-11-09T21:36:39+02:00

But this point are wuite out of the normal poin ligue, because when you kill acu you got about 100 000 point when others have 1500 so for first kill you dont see how good ppl are because one is jump out. Can you imagine it only wiht sing near score with kill ?

Statistics: Posted by Ithilis_Quo — 09 Nov 2014, 21:36

Re: Score whitotu acu kill poin

2014-11-09T21:28:32+02:00

well, while I agree it might deserve to be mitigated to an extent, removing it entirely doesn't seem right to me.
Locating and managing to kill an ennemy ACU is kinda the point of the game (in annihilation mode anyway), so it's pretty fair doing so brings extra points

Statistics: Posted by Zoram — 09 Nov 2014, 21:28

Re: Score whitotu acu kill poin

2014-11-09T19:28:24+02:00

Thx for pushing it.

Statistics: Posted by Ithilis_Quo — 09 Nov 2014, 19:28

Re: Score whitotu acu kill poin

2014-11-09T17:23:37+02:00

removing acu score bump seems like a good idea to me.
speak up against it or i will escalate it to the git issue tracker
for inclusion in 3636.

the other issue: https://github.com/FAForever/fa/issues/117
pray that someone cares to code it.

Statistics: Posted by rootbeer23 — 09 Nov 2014, 17:23

Score whitotu acu kill poin

2014-11-09T14:25:10+02:00

Hi everyone,
I have 2 ideas how to make score litle bit more clean. With nearly any work.

Problem is that when someone kill acu, then he took extreme mount or score point and then is imposible see how was player going with score through game. Kill somone is very important but imho acu kill sign near score (in game and after) is enough. And would be better see progress of players.

Second - would not be posible make zoom option on score graf what is after game? For see how was graf evolve in early game? Because when is game longer like short, then its impossible see progres of player on start of game.

Thx.

Statistics: Posted by Ithilis_Quo — 09 Nov 2014, 14:25