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Re: Countering gun commander as Aeon

2016-05-07T04:06:38+02:00

TheKoopa wrote:
LichKing2033 wrote:Apparently, I worded my post improperly. What I was saying is this:
Non-aeon gun com > aeon speed gun com
BUT
I know that...
Aeon range gun com > non-aeon gun com
Aeon double gun com > non aeon gun com (obviously)

Apparently, you can't read.

you can even rush rate of fire for approximately 1/2 the cost of regular gun and beat the shit out of them because you have 2x dps.

You have proved your point.

Statistics: Posted by Lieutenant Lich — 07 May 2016, 04:06

Re: Countering gun commander as Aeon

2016-05-04T02:44:19+02:00

LichKing2033 wrote:
Apparently, I worded my post improperly. What I was saying is this:
Non-aeon gun com > aeon speed gun com
BUT
I know that...
Aeon range gun com > non-aeon gun com
Aeon double gun com > non aeon gun com (obviously)

Apparently, you can't read.

you can even rush rate of fire for approximately 1/2 the cost of regular gun and beat the shit out of them because you have 2x dps.

Statistics: Posted by TheKoopa — 04 May 2016, 02:44

Re: Countering gun commander as Aeon

2016-05-04T02:06:17+02:00

Apparently, I worded my post improperly. What I was saying is this:
Non-aeon gun com > aeon speed gun com
BUT
I know that...
Aeon range gun com > non-aeon gun com
Aeon double gun com > non aeon gun com (obviously)

Statistics: Posted by Lieutenant Lich — 04 May 2016, 02:06

Re: Countering gun commander as Aeon

2016-05-03T01:15:36+02:00

Exotic_Retard wrote:
Gun coms that are not Aeon have a bit more range

http://www.faforever.com/faf/unitsDB/unit.php?bp=UAL0001,URL0001
dunno, i heard aeon range gun has 5 more range than standart gun

but who am i to say anything, its not like i know much about balance xD

He's saying how apparently 2x dps gun rush is bad because the other factions' guns have more range )

Statistics: Posted by TheKoopa — 03 May 2016, 01:15

Re: Countering gun commander as Aeon

2016-05-03T00:54:53+02:00

Gun coms that are not Aeon have a bit more range

http://www.faforever.com/faf/unitsDB/unit.php?bp=UAL0001,URL0001
dunno, i heard aeon range gun has 5 more range than standart gun

but who am i to say anything, its not like i know much about balance xD

Statistics: Posted by Exotic_Retard — 03 May 2016, 00:54

Re: Countering gun commander as Aeon

2016-05-03T00:01:18+02:00

LichKing2033 wrote:
TheKoopa wrote:you can even rush rate of fire for approximately 1/2 the cost of regular gun and beat the shit out of them because you have 2x dps.

Not necessarily true. Gun coms that are not Aeon have a bit more range. Aeon speed gun doesn't add range. So if you walk straight on them and they walk straight away from you, you will never get them but they will get you.

yeah im pretty sure aeon range gun adds range[/quote]

This:

you can even rush rate of fire for approximately 1/2 the cost of regular gun

Not necessarily true. Gun coms that are not Aeon have a bit more range

Because that totally makes sense when I said it's approximately 1/2 the cost of regular gun

Statistics: Posted by TheKoopa — 03 May 2016, 00:01

Re: Countering gun commander as Aeon

2016-05-02T18:25:27+02:00

TheKoopa wrote:
LichKing2033 wrote:
TheKoopa wrote:you can even rush rate of fire for approximately 1/2 the cost of regular gun and beat the shit out of them because you have 2x dps.

Not necessarily true. Gun coms that are not Aeon have a bit more range. Aeon speed gun doesn't add range. So if you walk straight on them and they walk straight away from you, you will never get them but they will get you.

You completely missed the point

yeah im pretty sure aeon range gun adds range

Statistics: Posted by biass — 02 May 2016, 18:25

Re: Countering gun commander as Aeon

2016-05-02T16:47:02+02:00

LichKing2033 wrote:
TheKoopa wrote:you can even rush rate of fire for approximately 1/2 the cost of regular gun and beat the shit out of them because you have 2x dps.

Not necessarily true. Gun coms that are not Aeon have a bit more range. Aeon speed gun doesn't add range. So if you walk straight on them and they walk straight away from you, you will never get them but they will get you.

You completely missed the point

Statistics: Posted by TheKoopa — 02 May 2016, 16:47

Re: Countering gun commander as Aeon

2016-05-02T06:47:37+02:00

Well i mean, for now you can be happy to try using range gun (individual guns are far cheaper then other factions join speed'n'range) and some asylums with auroras to block overcharges and remove the tank's weaknesses, if not, try bombing him into smithereens, having air control as aeon is always important

I know you're in LDB, so ask me or This_Guy if he's on to check out a replay if ya need anymore help

Statistics: Posted by biass — 02 May 2016, 06:47

Re: Countering gun commander as Aeon

2016-05-02T05:57:30+02:00

You completely missed his point.

Statistics: Posted by briang — 02 May 2016, 05:57

Re: Countering gun commander as Aeon

2016-05-02T04:13:07+02:00

TheKoopa wrote:
you can even rush rate of fire for approximately 1/2 the cost of regular gun and beat the shit out of them because you have 2x dps.

Not necessarily true. Gun coms that are not Aeon have a bit more range. Aeon speed gun doesn't add range. So if you walk straight on them and they walk straight away from you, you will never get them but they will get you.

Statistics: Posted by Lieutenant Lich — 02 May 2016, 04:13

Re: Countering gun commander as Aeon

2016-05-01T19:05:56+02:00

Aeon gun com is far superior to any other gun com, besides the fact you can even rush rate of fire for approximately 1/2 the cost of regular gun and beat the shit out of them because you have 2x dps.

Or even rush range and just rape their units from 10000000km away

Statistics: Posted by TheKoopa — 01 May 2016, 19:05

Re: Countering gun commander as Aeon

2016-05-01T18:57:50+02:00

Hawkei wrote:
Gun commander = time to stop T1 spam and go T2. I would recommend supplementing your Aurora horde with a few Asylums. Then transition into Blazes and/or Obsidians. Beyond this, you can seek to nullify the investment in an ACU gun by avoiding it. Split up your army and send it to raid on all different parts of the map.

You should also consider a T2 Aerial counter. I'd imagine your opponent would be reluctant to use their ACU aggressively if you start threatening him with Mercies, or Specres.

Yes. a couple accurate mercies would cool off the dude as they knock off 2.4k hp each. Hawkei is right to suggesting raiding the main base as the gun com is probably not on defensive.

Statistics: Posted by Lieutenant Lich — 01 May 2016, 18:57

Re: Countering gun commander as Aeon

2016-05-01T15:22:10+02:00

Gun commander = time to stop T1 spam and go T2. I would recommend supplementing your Aurora horde with a few Asylums. Then transition into Blazes and/or Obsidians. Beyond this, you can seek to nullify the investment in an ACU gun by avoiding it. Split up your army and send it to raid on all different parts of the map.

You should also consider a T2 Aerial counter. I'd imagine your opponent would be reluctant to use their ACU aggressively if you start threatening him with Mercies, or Specres.

Statistics: Posted by Hawkei — 01 May 2016, 15:22

Re: Countering gun commander as Aeon

2016-03-22T21:23:23+02:00

Agreed, biass.

Statistics: Posted by Lieutenant Lich — 22 Mar 2016, 21:23