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Re: Is there really any point in watching replays?

2015-07-16T17:28:48+02:00

Guys.

This thread is from February.

Please don't revive old threads.

Statistics: Posted by TheKoopa — 16 Jul 2015, 17:28

Re: Is there really any point in watching replays?

2015-07-16T16:57:00+02:00

Watch your own games and watch the best players' games. Don't just watch though, try to find the plays that gave you or your opponent an advantage. Was your tech timing good? Too early, or late? Should you attack somewhere else or at a different time? Was this the right strategy with the wrong execution or just the wrong strategy? What small things did you miss and how can you avoid missing them in the future?

Most of getting better at any game is eliminating mistakes but you have to find them first.

Statistics: Posted by JaggedAppliance — 16 Jul 2015, 16:57

Re: Is there really any point in watching replays?

2015-07-16T10:05:56+02:00

Really flynn? Another thread about this? Your like Dstoykov...stop talking about things, do stuff!

Statistics: Posted by Hascins — 16 Jul 2015, 10:05

Re: Is there really any point in watching replays?

2015-07-15T01:35:17+02:00

If you dont learn anything from watching replays then you are incapable of learning.

Statistics: Posted by Teralitha — 15 Jul 2015, 01:35

Re: Is there really any point in watching replays?

2015-02-15T18:00:53+02:00

Blodir wrote:
Flynn wrote:If you know you've power stalled or whatever what's the point.

Trying to figure out what kind of mental pattern ended up with you powerstalling like that and what you can do in the future about it. Just watching the replay doesn't do anything, you have to know what you are looking for.

This.

It sounds like what you are doing is saying, "Ah, I see what I did wrong, but I don't know why I did that, and I don't know what I'd do differently next time."

That sort of thinking obviously won't help you get any better.

Take for example the power stall. What's the solution? EIther (A) don't do the thing that made you power stall next time (upgrade, expensive building, expensive unit), do it slower so it doesn't make you stall or stall so hard, or build more power beforehand.

As a simple example, say you go first bomber but forget the first two pgens. You watch the replay and go "hm, I powerstalled." Next time, either don't go first bomber, or build pgens first.

Or where your bomber got shot down by an intie. The solution is, either don't bet on the bomber, or be able to defend it. This could mean sending it out after some AA, or with inties covering it, or sooner (before your opponent builds his), etc.

Bottom line, your replay watching has to result in you changing something. If you always do what you've always done, you will always get what you've always gotten.

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As someone else floating at the 1200 level in ladder, I will say that it's hard to go beyond this. Most of the games I've lost, I noticed, have been because of micro mistakes. In particular, I lose against a lot of people who go first bomber, and micro it so on one pass I lose all my engies and all my power. Now I could bet on that and build three AA right off the bat... but honestly, that's just not fun for me. I might get better in other ways, but I've also kind of accepted I play at the 1200 level and when I lose because of bomber micro, I choose to shrug it off.

Statistics: Posted by codepants — 15 Feb 2015, 18:00

Re: Is there really any point in watching replays?

2015-02-15T10:59:13+02:00

Is there really any point in you making any more of these threads?

Statistics: Posted by Reaper Zwei — 15 Feb 2015, 10:59

Re: Is there really any point in watching replays?

2015-02-15T10:48:26+02:00

It's very useful. For example I recently lost vs TA on forbidden pass. I watched the replay and I noticed that many of my pillars were killed by t1 arties. Why? Because when switching to t2 I did not queue up land scouts, so I did not see those arties. That kind of thing is useful to know.

If you don't know why you lost you could watch a pro replay on the same map, then compare what you did to what they did. Or send your replay to the replay review thread or to speed2. He already gave you some very good advice

Statistics: Posted by Vee — 15 Feb 2015, 10:48

Re: Is there really any point in watching replays?

2015-02-15T10:37:00+02:00

Voodoo wrote:
Watching replays is the most important thing if you want to improve.

Statistics: Posted by gnatinator — 15 Feb 2015, 10:37

Re: Is there really any point in watching replays?

2015-02-15T09:49:22+02:00

Exactly as Blodir said, if you dont put some effort, you will never achieve any result. Probably thats why Flynn is stuck forever at his 1300 rating

The biggest useful point i found in watching replays is watching what your opponent does, how he reacts to your actions and what effect they have. In a real game you can only anticipate all these things, and usually are busy with tons of other stuff. Watching a replay nothing distracts you anymore and you have 100% precise info on your opponent - now its up to you how to use it

Statistics: Posted by Mad`Mozart — 15 Feb 2015, 09:49

Re: Is there really any point in watching replays?

2015-02-14T23:19:44+02:00

Flynn wrote:
If you know you've power stalled or whatever what's the point.

Trying to figure out what kind of mental pattern ended up with you powerstalling like that and what you can do in the future about it. Just watching the replay doesn't do anything, you have to know what you are looking for.

Statistics: Posted by Blodir — 14 Feb 2015, 23:19

Re: Is there really any point in watching replays?

2015-02-14T23:13:39+02:00

There's more than one reason to lose a game..

Statistics: Posted by Gorton — 14 Feb 2015, 23:13

Re: Is there really any point in watching replays?

2015-02-14T23:12:56+02:00

Flynn wrote:
If you know you've power stalled or whatever what's the point.

I think if you know what you did wrong you don't exactly have to watch the replay. If you don't know what you did wrong then it is a good idea to watch the replay.

Statistics: Posted by belatedcube — 14 Feb 2015, 23:12

Re: Is there really any point in watching replays?

2015-02-14T22:43:41+02:00

If you know you've power stalled or whatever what's the point.

Statistics: Posted by Flynn — 14 Feb 2015, 22:43

Re: Is there really any point in watching replays?

2015-02-14T21:31:47+02:00

Watching replays is the most important thing if you want to improve.

Statistics: Posted by Voodoo — 14 Feb 2015, 21:31

Is there really any point in watching replays?

2015-02-14T19:19:23+02:00

Seriously, who the hell remembers stuff from the replay they have watched? All it is is stuff like "Right, you mass stalled there, you lost an engy here, your bomber got countered by an interceptor there" but no real overall strategic analysis. I can't even remember what a did wrong on a given map. I really can't see the point in watching replays at all.

Statistics: Posted by Flynn — 14 Feb 2015, 19:19