Is PD creep fair? How do you counter?

[TheStrategist]

I've spent plenty of games fighting others who use the PD creep tactic and I cant figure out how to counter it.

One of the most frustrating but most fun games I've played is attached. Please watch and tell me what I should have done differently. General playing advice is also welcome.


EDIT: Seems the replay doesn't work for some unknown reason. A couple of my replays of different games were replaced with an identical replay file of the same wrong game.

[Sunder]

T1 Artillery, Bombers for early. PDs are expensive so if your build is good it shouldn't be a problem early game.

[Nizar89]

Pavese's post just disappear, but even if he was too rude, he got a point: you did not scoot, did not expand, did not have a T3/T2 radar, and you have made T3 transports without units to transport and without T3 pgen.
T2 PDs are effective against T2 tanks, and that's why you build them.

If you wished to win with a drop, first of all scoot!
Against an IA with no ASF, T3 transport are useless. You should have made T2 transport 10 minutes before, some heavy tanks, mobile AA and shield.

[Kryo]

well I think this is not a canis game...

[Nizar89]

Oh . My bad.

[FunkOff]

To counter PD creep, you can either upgrade an ACU and charge the PDs... Overcharge does more damage to structures in 3612. You can also use air (gunships) or land (MMLs) or structure (TML) based counters. Or, you cna just go around the PDs and attack his flank. Lots of options.

[SpinDrah]

"Is PD creep fair?" Yes its fair why wouldn't it be? the first thing you need to do is stop thinking things are "Unfair"

If its in the game its fair.

[thygrrr]

EDIT: Seems the replay doesn't work for some unknown reason. A couple of my replays of different games were replaced with an identical replay file of the same wrong game.

The problem is that FA's "Save Replay" function doesn't save the last replay, it just copies a replay named "LastGame.SCFAReplay" to the new filename you gave it.

We don't create a new "LastGame.SCFAReplay" since a lot of updates, so it's always taking the same old game.

Your actual game has an unique name with the DATE and TIME as part of the filename.

The broken SaveReplay function will be removed from the game in one of the coming updates.

[TheStrategist]

ok lets say youre aeon or cybran. and a uef player has started construction on ravagers under a shield that will destroy one of your mass sites, giving you an eco disadvantage if theyre completed. What do you do?

[Zock]

Depends on the Situation. If i have a lot Units, i make some additional Artys and overrun him. If i am T2, i get some MMLs fast. If i have aircontrol, i do some bombers, preferable t2 bombers.

If possible, you can go with units or bomber for his eco if you're not sure if you can get his firebase.

T2 PD creep is strong, the best is you stop it before he can make many PDs. If he got not many Units, don't let him make PDs at the front. Atack him, force him to retreat and slowly tower himself forward from his last PD. That will cost him a lot additional PDs instead of just setting a tower in front of your base and gives you time to make more units.

While it is strong, a lot players tend to overrate the firepower of the T2 PDs against a huge T1 Army. It get easy overrolled. Be carefull if T1 PDs are mixen in, though.

If he wants to tower forward, force him to build a shield and maybe a stealth by making a pd just out of range of his PD. After he made it and an additional PD to kill yours, reclaim it fast.