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choose rating range in ladder games

Postby Zock » 20 Sep 2011, 00:50

Many people are complaining that they often have to fight vs mutch higher rated people in ladder games. An idea to prevent that would be an additional option at ladder search where you can choose the min and max rating of the opponent you will get.
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Re: choose rating range in ladder games

Postby FunkOff » 20 Sep 2011, 01:34

The only reason the ladder is the way it is now is because there are too few people searching. Right now the system is not picky and will match anybody with anybody. It will be more picky when there is a large enough player-base.
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Re: choose rating range in ladder games

Postby Zock » 20 Sep 2011, 02:04

wich wont happen if the player base gets even smaller because they are tired to play uneven matches.
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Re: choose rating range in ladder games

Postby ToejamS » 20 Sep 2011, 10:24

What do you prefer, playing an unbalance game or playing no game. I admit that its doing my head in, constantly getting top 10 players. Well lets see if I can learn a thing or 2 from those games.
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Re: choose rating range in ladder games

Postby AdmiralZeech » 20 Sep 2011, 17:46

I think ladder systems break down for small communities.

It might be better to have a queueing system:

- I select ranked, and choose a rating range.
- If people within that rating range are online, whether playing a match or in chat, they are notified that there is a ranked match waiting for them.
- I am also notified that there are X number of opponents that I am waiting for.
- The first potential opponent to finish their current match, or leave chat to enter a ranked match, they will be given the choice to play me.
- If they accept, my client plays a notification sound alerting me that my match is starting.

This sort of system means that you dont have be searching for a ranked match at exactly the same time as someone else. Since the system tells me how many people I'm waiting for, I can tell the difference between "noone is playing tonight" vs. "everyone just happens to be ingame right now, I should wait for them."
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Re: choose rating range in ladder games

Postby IMD » 26 Sep 2011, 08:29

It'd be nice to have something around this - i'm with Toejam in that playing is better than NOT playing, but at the same time continually getting utterly whupped by a top 10 player wears out my will to play. Mind you, I may always get whupped as I do suffer from sucking. :)

Also +1 to Zeech - a great annoyance (particularly given my funny time zone) - is not knowing if a game is ever coming.

But also, hurrah to Ze_Pilot for even bothering to try
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Re: choose rating range in ladder games

Postby LD_Milou2029 » 15 Oct 2011, 19:56

I just started with FAF today, and played my first 5 games with only 2 TOP players.
No ideas for better solutions but i agree that can be frustrating with time.
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Re: choose rating range in ladder games

Postby uberge3k » 16 Oct 2011, 21:43

Many people are complaining that they often have to fight vs mutch higher rated people in ladder games. An idea to prevent that would be an additional option at ladder search where you can choose the min and max rating of the opponent you will get.

This could be abused in the opposite way as well. Someone who wants to easily inflate their rating could simply select the minimum rating range.

Sure, it would take awhile, but you could effortlessly climb to the top of the ladder by only fighting weaker opponents.
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Re: choose rating range in ladder games

Postby Zock » 16 Oct 2011, 22:40

that does only work if the opponents puts a high rating range too. Both need to search in a range wich includes each others rating.

And what you say works anyway if you search at certain times.
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Re: choose rating range in ladder games

Postby Moritz » 17 Oct 2011, 02:49

I think it should be like GPGnet and fa-ladder (when I made the autolaunch program), we shouldnt have a rating range selector, it just starts from a certain range (like, hmm, 200), and increasing by about 100 every 20 seconds.
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