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Unit Formations

Postby Farmsletje » 05 Apr 2017, 03:59

So for a couple of months now i've been irritating myself tons on unit formation. I've got a whole army at the front and 1 random tank back in my base. I select them all, set a quick move command to the front and for some fucking reason they want to move in formation (even though i didn't drag the mouse to set the formation or anything, just a short click) so all the tanks move back to get in formation with the 1 random tank.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/133512362

^ See the clip

At 00:03 seconds i select my army and do a quick movement order. I don't hold it for too long, i don't drag my mouse while i've clicked with my mouse. Just a quick and simple click. So why the f*** do you see my entire army moving back in formation 5-10 seconds later? Can someone please explain this to me cause i apparently have no clue how it works.

At 00:17 it happens again, and it happens 1/2 times more in the vid if i'm correct.

Also for some reason this only happens to me when i've got a large number of units selected. This has never ever happened to me before with a small amount of units.

Because of this irritating feature i've had to delay so many of my attacks (simply because my units weren't at the front), it's not even funny.

Please save this poor soul from a salt overdose!
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Re: Unit Formations

Postby CookieNoob » 05 Apr 2017, 09:19

maybe you pressed ctrl while clicking? That will issue a formation move as well.
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Re: Unit Formations

Postby speed2 » 05 Apr 2017, 10:20

If you hold RMB and rotate you will select the final position of the army that will go there in the formation. This can happen very fast you your click is just bit longer than it should be and you already move cursor a bit. Blame UI lag, dont do such hectic clicking and it wont happen :P
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Re: Unit Formations

Postby Farmsletje » 05 Apr 2017, 14:53

CookieNoob wrote:maybe you pressed ctrl while clicking? That will issue a formation move as well.

I'm pretty sure i didn't.
speed2 wrote:If you hold RMB and rotate you will select the final position of the army that will go there in the formation. This can happen very fast you your click is just bit longer than it should be and you already move cursor a bit. Blame UI lag, dont do such hectic clicking and it wont happen :P

But i don't hold the RMB down (00:03). And i'm 100% i don't hold the RMB down for too long. The weird thing is, I've tested it to try and reproduce it, but i didn't manage do make my units move in formation even when i held down my RMB for 1 sec (while it happens all the time ingame when i'm clicking for 0,2sec or something).

Furthermore, it also happens when i'm not spamming the move command (00:03).
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Re: Unit Formations

Postby TheKoopa » 05 Apr 2017, 14:57

Large groups of units will try to move to a move order in formation but at their max speed rather than formation move which makes it tighter and go at the speed of the slowest unit instead.

If you really don't want this to happen (it's also the reason why units take a long time to respond) you have to use shift g after issuing the order
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Re: Unit Formations

Postby Turinturambar » 05 Apr 2017, 15:22

it would be nice if there was some spread attack for formations so there will no be 30 Units running back into the base for 3 Units without needing shift g
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Re: Unit Formations

Postby Farmsletje » 05 Apr 2017, 15:46

What turin says.

shift g does prevent the formation thing, but instead it'll ruin the formation for you. The pathfinding is going to be horrendous whilest AoE weapons can destroy everything.

Is it actually possible to make a mod to stop units walking in formation?
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Re: Unit Formations

Postby KeyBlue » 05 Apr 2017, 16:01

You could try to make something hacky that undoes a formation move and replaces it with a normal move to the same location .
Not sure how well such a thing would work.
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Re: Unit Formations

Postby Farmsletje » 05 Apr 2017, 16:10

Replace 'you' with 'someone' :D
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Re: Unit Formations

Postby Cuddles » 09 May 2017, 07:52

I'm having the same problem as sletjie here. Random formation moves when none was given.
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