Beacon Class Frigate needs a MINOR buff

[NotAsian]

I have no idea if this will load but.
http://faforever.com/faf/unitsDB/unit.p ... 03,XSS0103

Notice the AA on all frigates but Aeon, also note Aeon costs the most, has lowest rate of fire, has lowest health.
All traded for second best damage?
As its fire cycle is so damn slow shouldn't it do more damage per a shot? Its sacrificed AA which judging by their AA ship

http://faforever.com/faf/unitsDB/unit.p ... 03,XSS0103
Should save 40m (dps wise I'de say more like 20m) in other words its torp defense costs 50m
But looking at this
http://faforever.com/faf/unitsDB/unit.p ... 03,XSS0203
Aeon is still disadvantaged lose the ability to surface and shoot for less health then UEF still? now i know this makes sense as UEF should almost always have more HP but shouldnt the Aeon subs have more "focus".

Anyway just looking at the numbers Beacons need a buff
in either damage or health likely damage as it likely wont kill a engee in <5secs
http://faforever.com/faf/unitsDB/unit.p ... 05,XSL0105
I propose main guns get +10 damage each (+2dps ea, +7%) at-least as its at-least 7% more expensive at-most 20% and those ships shoot faster and have a (slightly) higher dps and more health. The only thing Aeon has on their side is range and if they kite they half their dps.

[pip]

Aeon has aurora.

[ColonelSheppard]

Aeon has AA-ship

pls stop useless balance discussion
vote for thread close

[Softly]

Well aeon frigates get the anti torpedo as well, which means in large numbers they can be effective in skirmishes as anti torpedoe units. Also looking at the stats they have higher range than other friagtes. Add to this that their damage is front loaded and that aeon also have a cheap but effective t1 aa boat and it all comes back to pretty balanced.

[NotAsian]

Aeon has AA-ship

pls stop useless balance discussion
vote for thread close

How does one close a thread?
Also AA ship requires presence of mind to build a unit that doesnt really do anything. Yes i know its nit-picking.

Well aeon frigates get the anti torpedo as well, which means in large numbers they can be effective in skirmishes as anti torpedoe units. Also looking at the stats they have higher range than other friagtes. Add to this that their damage is front loaded and that aeon also have a cheap but effective t1 aa boat and it all comes back to pretty balanced.

My point was its not what you paid for, i know its pretty well balanced

As soon as i work out how ill kill the thread...

[Softly]

Well only mods can "kill" threads by locking them.

Or people like me can stop replying

[noobymcnoobcake]

It needs its two guns firing seperatley rather than in a salvo at the same target to make it overkill stuff less often. Other than that its fine.

The AA boat is more effective against T1/T2 air than cruisers by a long long way. They eat gunships alive as they are so fast and out range them.

[Swkoll]

It needs its two guns firing seperatley rather than in a salvo at the same target to make it overkill stuff less often. Other than that its fine.

The AA boat is more effective against T1/T2 air than cruisers by a long long way. They eat gunships alive as they are so fast and out range them.

I disagree, aeon cruisers have 21 times and AA dps and only cost 17 times as much as they do. Plus the cruiser gets anti-missile and anti-surface weapons. They also have 4 times the health.

[Myxir]

It needs its two guns firing seperatley rather than in a salvo at the same target to make it overkill stuff less often. Other than that its fine.

The AA boat is more effective against T1/T2 air than cruisers by a long long way. They eat gunships alive as they are so fast and out range them.

I disagree, aeon cruisers have 21 times and AA dps and only cost 17 times as much as they do. Plus the cruiser gets anti-missile and anti-surface weapons. They also have 4 times the health.

i bet it's not 4 times the combined health.

the real value of a cruiser is the range of his AA, his perfect accuracy and extremely high muzzle velocity which allowes to kill any air unit, plus (of course) the high ranged radar, sonar and visual intel.

the actual problem of the cruiser is a swarm of torpedo bomber which is easily killed by the 17 AA-boats, because they can't get killed in one pass

[noobymcnoobcake]

AA boats are the fastest ships in the game. They are the same speed as T3 gunships. Speed is vital when defending against air attacks. They have an insane combined HP compared to a cruiser. You do not want to fly a cloud of interceptors over a 17 of these boats. Also they are produce able by T1 naval factorys leaving your T2 one free for other ships. If you opponent has not got T3 air yet then against air attacks they are superior in every way.

The insane speed also allows them to run from subs very effectveley and it is very hard for destroyers to hit them. Can also be used as cannon fodder to protect your more expensive ships.

Idealy should be mixed in with shields, cruisers and hover flack. This combination makes the aeon navy all but invincible to anything but an air experimental.