3629 broadsword damage nerf?

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3629 broadsword damage nerf?

Postby JeeVeS » 03 Mar 2014, 11:48

With the 3629 t3 gunship rebalance, the patch info for broadsword shows:

RateOfFire = 2.5 (From 3). DPS = 225 (From 300)
AA Damage = 8 (From 2). DPS = 12 (From 3)

I think the fire rate was really 1/.3 = 3.3333, giving it a dps of 333.33. This WAS reflected in the units db prior to zep changing it to the current value. I'm sure others will remember broadsword having 333.33 dps.

Thus this patch reduced broadsword dps by 108.33, or 32.5%.

Was this an intentional nerf? If the intent is to reduce its damage by 25% like the wailer, why not just bring down the projectile damage from 100 to 75 and maintain the 3.33 fire rate? This equates to 250dps.

The faster fire rate was more suitable anyway.
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Re: 3629 broadsword damage nerf?

Postby Ze_PilOt » 03 Mar 2014, 12:04

The unitDB wasn't updated. It is now.
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Re: 3629 broadsword damage nerf?

Postby JeeVeS » 03 Mar 2014, 12:17

Ze_PilOt wrote:The unitDB wasn't updated. It is now.
Please re-read what I wrote. The unitdb was reflecting the old dps that was actually 333.33, not 300, prior to the patch. So broadsword was nerfed too much.

Also, you now have multiple values in the UnitsDB for mass, energy, buildtime and projectile damage.
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Re: 3629 broadsword damage nerf?

Postby Ze_PilOt » 03 Mar 2014, 12:22

Patch period is over. You had 4 months to realize it.
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Re: 3629 broadsword damage nerf?

Postby JeeVeS » 03 Mar 2014, 12:35

Too bad, if only I were more perceptive. Will 'banal comments period' ever be over?
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Re: 3629 broadsword damage nerf?

Postby Ze_PilOt » 03 Mar 2014, 13:10

Balance talks are kind of banned outside balance periods.
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Re: 3629 broadsword damage nerf?

Postby JeeVeS » 03 Mar 2014, 13:28

Irrelevant. This thread isn't about balance, it's about whether this was an intended change or not. It looks like the answer is no, it wasn't intended.
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Re: 3629 broadsword damage nerf?

Postby Ze_PilOt » 03 Mar 2014, 13:28

If it's the changelog, it is intented.
They cost less, they go faster.
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Re: 3629 broadsword damage nerf?

Postby JeeVeS » 03 Mar 2014, 14:09

The changelog says:

Heavy Gunships
Speed + 2
Cost and DPS cut by roughly 25%
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Broadsword
DPS = 225 (From 300)


The original dps was not 300, it was 333.33. Thus the DPS was cut by 32.5%, not 25%. Either your changelog is wrong, or your change is wrong. Pick one.
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Re: 3629 broadsword damage nerf?

Postby Ze_PilOt » 03 Mar 2014, 14:51

The changelog is there for information purpose.
Only the final values, that were tested matter.
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