Please do something about the ladder

[SeraphimLeftNut]

There are basically no players left to play in the top 50 on the ladder.
There were massive discussions a few months ago about the ladder pool but no action was taken.
When people have to play summer duel in 5 of their last 10 games, when neither of the players has summer duel selected as a favorite map the system is obviously broken.
Until you fix the system, cut down the map pool to 10 classic maps. If you don't have the time to fix things the way that everyone will be happy then don't just leave the problem because FAF is shrinking right now and your perfect solution in 6 months will be pointless.

The ladder is not to discover new maps, the ladder is to compare skill on maps that both players know very well. If the ladder consists of 10 maps, then you will see a lot more players actually play it.

Please don't make this thread into another pointless bullshit discussion that happened 2months ago. All your opinions are garbage.

Just do this temporary fix and then have a discussion about where to go next.

First ladder game after writing this post and begging someone to search ladder for 40 minutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmGsDX2BpO8

[ZLO_RD]

never had summer duel in about last 100 games or so

maybe random is to cruel for some people? maybe make rule to system unable to choose same map for a player second time?

i know that implementing map rotation takes time, but we can just make something like:
-removing maps that everyone do not like ( it should not change anything since Lame, is not playing but still you will not able to troll by choosing worst maps and people will be happy cuz they get what they want)
-give more weight to maps that both players have selected? so they will be happy?
-or give more weight to maps that everyone had selected, so people will have to deal with it and they will know that those are commonly selected
- also we can reset map choices so AFK people will affect ladder less, also it will give people chance to reconsider map choice and it will give boost to natural map rotation that we have atm (there are no movement cause no new maps added/removed so no one ever changes map choice or even checks map choice tab)

tbh i think i forgot something, but it is kinda true that very little people play

[lextoc]

I agree that the ladder has been shit for a while

[Joly]

Well for me, if this 3 things were done, ladder would get a massive increase of games played:
1- Reset ladder rating, and do it periodically for every 3 months or so;
2- Give some sort of reward to the top players of that period(maybe you could give the top 50 players their an information on their profile that showed their rank on the last rotation, and some avatar to the top 5) ;
3- Fixed map pool that may have rotations each period: my suggestion would be 15 maps,3 of each dimension:
Suggestion
5Km- Theta, Desert arena, Cobalt valley, blasted rock and ambush pass;
10km - Palms, Loki, Regor, Vya-3, Twin rivers
20km- Roanocke, Crossfire, Sera Glaciers, Point of reach, setons

[Aulex]

Well for me, if this 3 things were done, ladder would get a massive increase of games played:
1- Reset ladder rating, and do it periodically for every 3 months or so;
2- Give some sort of reward to the top players of that period;
3- Fixed map pool that may have rotations each period: my suggestion would be 15 maps,3 of each dimension:
Suggestion
5Km- Theta, Desert arena, Cobalt valley, blasted rock and ambush pass;
10km - Palms, Loki, Regor, Vya-3, Twin rivers
20km- Roanocke, Crossfire, Sera Glaciers, Point of reach, setons

I wouldn't reset ladder rating, rather increase deviation as days not played increases
the rest i agree with, the ladder maps seem nice, maybe no setons

[Joly]

Why not? This way we would get no "I play 1 game today , next one in 4 months and I keep my rating"
and It would incentive fights for 1st place again

[Aulex]

I mean if we go with that logic there should be a reset every week, 1 every 3 months is way too long of a period. Also, my suggestion wasn't towards incentivizing rather accuracy, but yea for the sake of accuracy i guess your idea is better.

[Joly]

Tbh, I just wanna incentive more play at top level, maybe monthly, month and a half rotations would be better

[Aulex]

Return the old division system, where rating = what division bracket you're in. At least people have a drive to have a circle next to their username, mix this with increased deviation as inactivity increases, this could be a good system.

[SeraphimLeftNut]

Dont' reset ladder stats just add a separate weekly leaderboard and give the top players on this leaderboard some avatar.

But this is all details, the first thing to do is to cut the map pool drastically. No doubt a few people, who probably never even play, will be mad when their favorite map is gone, but the maps in the pool should be geared toward getting as many players into the ladder. These should be maps that most people are familiar with(classic maps). These should not be maps like setons that require huge apm.

Rivers, open palms, loki, badlands, syrtis, vya, blasted, canis river, and a couple more for variety.