New sacrifice function.

[Ze_PilOt]

This is a little late for proposing that change, but I kind of promised it to fdfdfdfdf or whatever

Aeon has a sacrifice option that can transfer mass & energy into what you build.

The idea is to extend that function to factory. Instead of transferring their mass, they transfer a certain amount of their BP into the factory. (80%? 90%?).

[Myxir]

i think it's better to wait for Zock and Rien to finish the Engy Redesign mod, i like the idea of multiple t3 facs better than the idea of having a single one pushed to 20000 buildpower

and to give only aeon this advantage? i think sacrificing 80~90 % of their mass into a pd or a t4 would be nice, but not for facs

[rootbeer23]

that is possible? sounds like a good idea. although i dont see why they should transfer less than 100% of their buildrate.
after all they commit flexible build capacity to a more inflexible one.
less lag and no more unit cap! make it happen.

[Wakke]

Bad idea imo, as you will not be able to see how much BP an enemy factory has. It also needs a hard limit on the number of engies you can sacrifice into a factory, and hard limits are bad.

[ZLO_RD]

I do not understand.

You hit sacrifice on your factory that producing units, engy comes and sacrifice himself and dies, factory now have +4 or 5 BP? for what period of time? :O that actually sounds too cool, it is like protected ingeners inside of factory, even if you cant use them in any other way anymore

I imagine team game when aeon player sacrifice engineers to uef land fac connected to 2 t3 mexes, and they spam percies FTW

indeed it can make adjacency bonus OP

so i do not think it can apper in FA
at least you can make BP assimptotically increas to N*BP (n=2 you can double BP of factory), it's like 1rst ingeners gives +5 second +4 third +4 4th +3.... 15th gives 0 BP or 0.1 xD

anyway i do not like random changes, we need only solve problems without making all factions same

[Ze_PilOt]

i think it's better to wait for Zock and Rien to finish the Engy Redesign mod, i like the idea of multiple t3 facs better than the idea of having a single one pushed to 20000 buildpower

and to give only aeon this advantage? i think sacrificing 80~90 % of their mass into a pd or a t4 would be nice, but not for facs

- This is not exclusive.
- Why cybran and UEF have an advantage with engy stations ? Also, faction diversity.

[rootbeer23]

Bad idea imo, as you will not be able to see how much BP an enemy factory has.

add 1 hp per engi to the factory then.

It also needs a hard limit on the number of engies you can sacrifice into a factory, and hard limits are bad.

why is that?

[Blackheart]

This would make tactics like damaging the enemys buildpower useless. Which would give Aeon an extreme advantage in air play. A great problem is also that the adjacency bonus that was introduced in one of the latest patches would become OP.

[eXivo]

so i do not think it can apper in FA
at least you can make BP assimptotically increas to N*BP (n=2 you can double BP of factory), it's like 1rst ingeners gives +5 second +4 third +4 4th +3.... 15th gives 0 BP or 0.1 xD

anyway i do not like random changes, we need only solve problems without making all factions same

supcom2's engie assisting worked that way

[brn4meplz]

- Why cybran and UEF have an advantage with engy stations ? Also, faction diversity.

Engineering stations aren't very efficient compared to T1 engineers. Not only that but the UEF ones are actually a liability to shields when asf or ints come past your base.