Really bad stuttering when using the faf client?

[HolyPlums]

So when I first purchased the game I was only using the normal game, and moved on I FAF. The problem I'm having is that every game I play using it results in constant stuttering. It isn't present in the normal game?

I have reinstalled the client multiple times to no avail, updates my drivers, rolled back etc.

Can anyone help?

[Viba]

Try starting the game from here: "C:\ProgramData\FAForever\bin\ForgedAlliance.exe".
Don't open any client, if we rule out the client then we can investigate the game closer.

In any case, it would be good if you posted logs, can be found here: C:\ProgramData\FAForever\logs, upload to e.g. pastebin and paste here forever.log and game.log.

[HolyPlums]

Try starting the game from here: "C:\ProgramData\FAForever\bin\ForgedAlliance.exe".
Don't open any client, if we rule out the client then we can investigate the game closer.

In any case, it would be good if you posted logs, can be found here: C:\ProgramData\FAForever\logs, upload to e.g. pastebin and paste here forever.log and game.log.

Ok thanks for the help,

Here is my forever log

Game Log:

info: mounting maps from: C:\Users\User1\Documents\My Games\Gas Powered Games\Supreme Commander Forged Alliance\maps\
info: checking C:\Users\User1\Documents\My Games\Gas Powered Games\Supreme Commander Forged Alliance\maps\
info: mounting maps from: C:\ProgramData\FAForever\bin\..\user\My Games\Gas Powered Games\Supreme Commander Forged Alliance\maps\
info: checking C:\ProgramData\FAForever\bin\..\user\My Games\Gas Powered Games\Supreme Commander Forged Alliance\maps\
info: Found mod sounds in: BlackOpsFAF-Unleashed
info: checking C:\Users\User1\Documents\My Games\Gas Powered Games\Supreme Commander Forged Alliance\mods
info: checking C:\Users\User1\Documents\My Games\Gas Powered Games\Supreme Commander Forged Alliance\maps
info: checking C:\ProgramData\FAForever\bin\..\user\My Games\Gas Powered Games\Supreme Commander Forged Alliance\mods
info: checking C:\ProgramData\FAForever\bin\..\user\My Games\Gas Powered Games\Supreme Commander Forged Alliance\maps
info: checking C:\ProgramData\FAForever\bin\..\gamedata\*.nxt
info: checking C:\ProgramData\FAForever\bin\..\gamedata\*.nx2
info: checking C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\supreme commander forged alliance\gamedata\*.scd
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\maps\10 the pass', mounted as '/maps/10 the pass/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\maps\12 the pass', mounted as '/maps/12 the pass/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\maps\6vs6 battle of thermopylae v5', mounted as '/maps/6vs6 battle of thermopylae v5/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\maps\astro_crater_battles', mounted as '/maps/astro_crater_battles/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\maps\astro_crater_battles4x4v2', mounted as '/maps/astro_crater_battles4x4v2/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\maps\astro_crater_battles_5vs5.v0001', mounted as '/maps/astro_crater_battles_5vs5.v0001/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\maps\astro_crater_battles_5vs5_navy_battles.v0011', mounted as '/maps/astro_crater_battles_5vs5_navy_battles.v0011/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\maps\dual_gap_v5.6.v0001', mounted as '/maps/dual_gap_v5.6.v0001/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\maps\dual_gap_v5.7_beta_2.v0001', mounted as '/maps/dual_gap_v5.7_beta_2.v0001/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\maps\farce_in_tha_forest.v0002', mounted as '/maps/farce_in_tha_forest.v0002/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\maps\festea_vii.v0006', mounted as '/maps/festea_vii.v0006/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\maps\gap of rohan 5v5.v0001', mounted as '/maps/gap of rohan 5v5.v0001/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\maps\gap_of_rohan_v4_fixed_pathing.v0004', mounted as '/maps/gap_of_rohan_v4_fixed_pathing.v0004/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\maps\lzeus_olymp_v1.v0002', mounted as '/maps/lzeus_olymp_v1.v0002/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\maps\nightmare_pass_v12.v0001', mounted as '/maps/nightmare_pass_v12.v0001/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\maps\summoners_rift_beta_1.v0002', mounted as '/maps/summoners_rift_beta_1.v0002/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\maps\the maze', mounted as '/maps/the maze/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\maps\voodoo castle v17', mounted as '/maps/voodoo castle v17/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\mods\blackopsfaf-unleashed\sounds', mounted as '/sounds/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\mods\#build range x3', mounted as '/mods/#build range x3/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\mods\#quality of performance', mounted as '/mods/#quality of performance/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\mods\advanced shields', mounted as '/mods/advanced shields/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\mods\advanced shields v4', mounted as '/mods/advanced shields v4/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\mods\advanced shields v5', mounted as '/mods/advanced shields v5/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\mods\blackopsfaf-unleashed', mounted as '/mods/blackopsfaf-unleashed/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\mods\defencesexpand', mounted as '/mods/defencesexpand/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\mods\exmex', mounted as '/mods/exmex/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\mods\experimental point defence', mounted as '/mods/experimental point defence/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\mods\no friendly fire', mounted as '/mods/no friendly fire/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\mods\rescources x2', mounted as '/mods/rescources x2/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\mods\siege shields', mounted as '/mods/siege shields/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\mods\storagerich_x10', mounted as '/mods/storagerich_x10/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\mods\storagerich_x5', mounted as '/mods/storagerich_x5/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\mods\t2_t3_storage', mounted as '/mods/t2_t3_storage/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\mods\t2_t3_storage_faf', mounted as '/mods/t2_t3_storage_faf/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\mods\t3engstationsfaf', mounted as '/mods/t3engstationsfaf/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\mods\x2 build range', mounted as '/mods/x2 build range/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\maps\10 the pass', mounted as '/maps/10 the pass/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\maps\12 the pass', mounted as '/maps/12 the pass/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\maps\6vs6 battle of thermopylae v5', mounted as '/maps/6vs6 battle of thermopylae v5/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\maps\astro_crater_battles', mounted as '/maps/astro_crater_battles/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\maps\astro_crater_battles4x4v2', mounted as '/maps/astro_crater_battles4x4v2/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\maps\astro_crater_battles_5vs5.v0001', mounted as '/maps/astro_crater_battles_5vs5.v0001/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\maps\astro_crater_battles_5vs5_navy_battles.v0011', mounted as '/maps/astro_crater_battles_5vs5_navy_battles.v0011/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\maps\dual_gap_v5.6.v0001', mounted as '/maps/dual_gap_v5.6.v0001/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\maps\dual_gap_v5.7_beta_2.v0001', mounted as '/maps/dual_gap_v5.7_beta_2.v0001/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\maps\farce_in_tha_forest.v0002', mounted as '/maps/farce_in_tha_forest.v0002/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\maps\festea_vii.v0006', mounted as '/maps/festea_vii.v0006/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\maps\gap of rohan 5v5.v0001', mounted as '/maps/gap of rohan 5v5.v0001/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\maps\gap_of_rohan_v4_fixed_pathing.v0004', mounted as '/maps/gap_of_rohan_v4_fixed_pathing.v0004/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\maps\lzeus_olymp_v1.v0002', mounted as '/maps/lzeus_olymp_v1.v0002/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\maps\nightmare_pass_v12.v0001', mounted as '/maps/nightmare_pass_v12.v0001/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\maps\summoners_rift_beta_1.v0002', mounted as '/maps/summoners_rift_beta_1.v0002/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\maps\the maze', mounted as '/maps/the maze/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\users\user1\documents\my games\gas powered games\supreme commander forged alliance\maps\voodoo castle v17', mounted as '/maps/voodoo castle v17/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\programdata\faforever\gamedata\effects.nx2', mounted as '/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\programdata\faforever\gamedata\env.nx2', mounted as '/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\programdata\faforever\gamedata\etc.nx2', mounted as '/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\programdata\faforever\gamedata\loc.nx2', mounted as '/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\programdata\faforever\gamedata\lua.nx2', mounted as '/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\programdata\faforever\gamedata\meshes.nx2', mounted as '/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\programdata\faforever\gamedata\modules.nx2', mounted as '/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\programdata\faforever\gamedata\projectiles.nx2', mounted as '/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\programdata\faforever\gamedata\schook.nx2', mounted as '/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\programdata\faforever\gamedata\textures.nx2', mounted as '/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\programdata\faforever\gamedata\units.nx2', mounted as '/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\supreme commander forged alliance\gamedata\ambience.scd', mounted as '/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\supreme commander forged alliance\gamedata\editor.scd', mounted as '/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\supreme commander forged alliance\gamedata\effects.scd', mounted as '/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\supreme commander forged alliance\gamedata\env.scd', mounted as '/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\supreme commander forged alliance\gamedata\loc_us.scd', mounted as '/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\supreme commander forged alliance\gamedata\lua.scd', mounted as '/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\supreme commander forged alliance\gamedata\meshes.scd', mounted as '/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\supreme commander forged alliance\gamedata\mods.scd', mounted as '/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\supreme commander forged alliance\gamedata\mohodata.scd', mounted as '/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\supreme commander forged alliance\gamedata\moholua.scd', mounted as '/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\supreme commander forged alliance\gamedata\objects.scd', mounted as '/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\supreme commander forged alliance\gamedata\projectiles.scd', mounted as '/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\supreme commander forged alliance\gamedata\props.scd', mounted as '/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\supreme commander forged alliance\gamedata\schook.scd', mounted as '/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\supreme commander forged alliance\gamedata\skins.scd', mounted as '/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\supreme commander forged alliance\gamedata\textures.scd', mounted as '/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\supreme commander forged alliance\gamedata\units.scd', mounted as '/'
info: DISK: AddSearchPath: 'c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\supreme commander forged alliance', mounted as '/'
info: Hooked /lua/userInit.lua with /schook/lua/userInit.lua
info: Hooked /lua/globalInit.lua with /schook/lua/globalInit.lua
info: MD5 of global settings: d2a23d6464d3fd77956e7648c43b5077
info: IsStreamingWaveBank("/sounds/aeonselect.xwb") => false
debug: Wavebank prepared: 492c008
debug: SND: Loaded WaveBank 'aeonselect' at 492c008
info: IsStreamingWaveBank("/sounds/ambienttest.xwb") => false
debug: Wavebank prepared: 492c138
debug: SND: Loaded WaveBank 'ambienttest' at 492c138
info: IsStreamingWaveBank("/sounds/blackopswb.xwb") => false
debug: Wavebank prepared: 492c268
debug: SND: Loaded WaveBank 'blackopswb' at 492c268
info: IsStreamingWaveBank("/sounds/cybranselect.xwb") => false
debug: Wavebank prepared: 492c398
debug: SND: Loaded WaveBank 'cybranselect' at 492c398
info: IsStreamingWaveBank("/sounds/explosions.xwb") => false
debug: Wavebank prepared: 492c4c8
debug: SND: Loaded WaveBank 'explosions' at 492c4c8
info: IsStreamingWaveBank("/sounds/explosionsstream.xwb") => true
debug: SND: Loaded WaveBank 'explosionsstream' at 492c5f8
info: IsStreamingWaveBank("/sounds/fmv_bg.xwb") => true
debug: SND: Loaded WaveBank 'fmv_bg' at 492d798
info: IsStreamingWaveBank("/sounds/impacts.xwb") => false
debug: Wavebank prepared: 492e938
debug: SND: Loaded WaveBank 'impacts' at 492e938
info: IsStreamingWaveBank("/sounds/interface.xwb") => false
debug: Wavebank prepared: 492ea68
debug: SND: Loaded WaveBank 'interface' at 492ea68
info: IsStreamingWaveBank("/sounds/music.xwb") => true
debug: SND: Loaded WaveBank 'music' at 492eb98
info: IsStreamingWaveBank("/sounds/op_briefing.xwb") => true
debug: SND: Loaded WaveBank 'op_briefing' at 492fd38
info: IsStreamingWaveBank("/sounds/seraphimselect.xwb") => false
debug: Wavebank prepared: 4930ed8

[HolyPlums]

The Forever log is too big to post here?

[HolyPlums]

Try starting the game from here: "C:\ProgramData\FAForever\bin\ForgedAlliance.exe".
Don't open any client, if we rule out the client then we can investigate the game closer.

In any case, it would be good if you posted logs, can be found here: C:\ProgramData\FAForever\logs, upload to e.g. pastebin and paste here forever.log and game.log.

Actually it is now happening in the Forged alliance exe that you suggested as well, when I first got the game this wasn't the case and the hardware is working and on the same computer

[PhilipJFry]

there is an "upload attachment" button below the text box when making a post on the forum
you can use that to upload files instead of pasting 10k lines into a post which is obviously not allowed since the page would become too long

[surtsan]

If you remember that when you first played this game you didn't have this issue (but maybe it was because you didn't pay attention...), maybe make a new fresh install without any faf patch or anything and start the game and check if it is still happening.

[HolyPlums]

If you remember that when you first played this game you didn't have this issue (but maybe it was because you didn't pay attention...), maybe make a new fresh install without any faf patch or anything and start the game and check if it is still happening.

I have reinstalled the game now and removed everything from my computer but supreme commander, although my saves were still present so it obviously didn't uninstall everything.

Using a Seraphim mex as a judge of the stuttering. It gets worse through the match, but is also the same on any graphical setting and I get 90+fps

I do however have 100% cpu usage on an i5 4590 which is mjore than enough to run the game, could this be causing the issue? I'm not certain but I remmeber my cpu usage being much lower than that.

[PhilipJFry]

no the game should not be able to cause 100% cpu load on your 4 core cpu since the heaviest threads run at best on 2 different cores

[HolyPlums]

no the game should not be able to cause 100% cpu load on your 4 core cpu since the heaviest threads run at best on 2 different cores

Actually I meant I have 100$ usage on 1 core and around 5-10 on the second. I did check though and it doesn't seem to have any correlation with the stuttering.

The fad client makes the stuttering FAR worse, every game I play online.